Huge Bruise on Hip Bone and Inner Elbow

FiveFrameSwing said:

I suppose this could be one solution.

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Pretty sure I won't be calling. Yikes!

Of course, "brush" contact/interference isn't slam contact or hit contact. As they learn to allow "brush" contact/interference to happen, they may slam/hit their arm a bit harder than intended. In my opinion, some of this is explained by not allowing the arm to internally rotate (IR) through release. You watch the "elite" pitchers pitch. While it may appear that they are slamming their arm into their hip, it isn't really a slam/hit, at least not to the point of significant bruising.

I would say, let it heal a bit and then continue to work on correct IR (Boardmember) and not as much on brush, but tell her to not avoid brush, but do avoid slamming/hitting. That's my novice opinion.

Doug Romrell said:

Of course, "brush" contact/interference isn't slam contact or hit contact. As they learn to allow "brush" contact/interference to happen, they may slam/hit their arm a bit harder than intended. In my opinion, some of this is explained by not allowing the arm to internally rotate (IR) through release. You watch the "elite" pitchers pitch. While it may appear that they are slamming their arm into their hip, it isn't really a slam/hit, at least not to the point of significant bruising.

I would say, let it heal a bit and then continue to work on correct IR (Boardmember) and not as much on brush, but tell her to not avoid brush, but do avoid slamming/hitting. That's my novice opinion.

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If the hand is inside the ball coming into 7-O'Clock, then you should undergo more of a rolling action.

There are sleeves available, but not sure they're padded.

Internet instruction sometimes scares me. I really feel better being right there with a kid and parent to make sure a cue is not misunderstood.

I'd suggest that brush isn't the goal. Ask her to release closer to the thigh and make sure her posture allows for it. If she does, brush is a byproduct and I don't mention it. Sometimes, if a kid is still a couple inches away from the thigh, I'll ask her if she can feel the contact or the tingling on the skin. I'll show her that the skin is only pink from the elbow to about halfway down the forearm and ask her to feel it down to her wrist, or let the back of the pinky brush the pant leg.

If anything hurts, work on being looser, closer and make sure she's pulling the ball and not forcing whip.


Ken

Am I correct in saying if you are palm up at 9:00 then slicing down (Coach Pauly term) leading with the pinky (hand inside the ball) the BRUSH will rotate the wrist for you? When I try this that seems to be what happens although my forearm is a bit red and tingly as mentioned above.

In other words, you shouldn't have to "teach" a girl (my DD in this case) to manually or forcefully rotate the wrist/snap/ etc.? It just happens on its own if your BI is correct?

My opinion (especially when first learning whip) is to allow the ball to whip out of the hand by keeping things loose and unforced from the elbow down. Let follow through happen--don't make it happen. The forearm/hand will rotate with or without brush if the upper arm pauses. Brush helps it along and provides a consistent release.

FiveFrameSwing said:

I suppose this could be one solution.

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I would have to disagree with the lady... imo its not the lean or lack there of that pushes in on a righty, its the fact shes wrapping her forearm around her hip. If the butt pushes outward and we create a leaning posture, it makes it really difficult to get good BI. BI is an accuracy solution, not the problem as this lady refers to....

To the OP, see if she's starting to rotate the shoulder internally just BEFORE the brush... otherwise the elbow will be banging the hip rather than brushing

I hear you CJ. I find it interesting that we still have pitching instructors teaching 'accuracy' by basically avoiding brush-assisted-whip.

In the brief year that DD has been heavily involved with pitching, we have been around a few different pitching coaches and clinics.

Heavy doses of hand on top, slamming the door etc. etc. But, I have also found positives from these different coaches/clinics, and DD is getting accomplished at ignoring certain things as well.

DD is doing a U of O pitching clinic this weekend. I am hoping it will be a good experience for her.

GoCaboNow said:

In the brief year that DD has been heavily involved with pitching, we have been around a few different pitching coaches and clinics.

Heavy doses of hand on top, slamming the door etc. etc. But, I have also found positives from these different coaches/clinics, and DD is getting accomplished at ignoring certain things as well.

DD is doing a U of O pitching clinic this weekend. I am hoping it will be a good experience for her.

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DD's learned the "smile-n-nod" pretty quick. My older daughter attended a lesson with one of our favorite instructors and was told she needed to work on her drop. The PC told her spin and movement were very good, but that she could improve it by using a spinner and getting that hand behind the ball through release. DD looked at me and I winked. She smiled, nodded and worked with the spinner for a couple minutes. When she went back to the ball, the PC again complimented her on spin and movement and encouraged her to keep using a spinner...