I wonder if there is a break-point where the amount of Brush Interference starts to degrade spin rate?
The ball in this vid doesn't look like it will be anywhere close to 20RPS.
But if you throw 67MPH, then maybe that doesn't matter much...
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I wonder if there is a break-point where the amount of Brush Interference starts to degrade spin rate?
The ball in this vid doesn't look like it will be anywhere close to 20RPS.
But if you throw 67MPH, then maybe that doesn't matter much...
FiveFrameSwing
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Reminded me of the Cat’s advice to keep the rear shoulder back, giving you the front side of resistance for your snap.
I think its Dallas Escobedo
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And a follow up question to Corlays.
With such a hard "brush", anyone concerned about injuries to the lower arm? A typical pitcher will easily throw 10,000 pitches a year and the arm whip is a violent action.
Any thoughts?
With such a hard "brush", anyone concerned about injuries to the lower arm? A typical pitcher will easily throw 10,000 pitches a year and the arm whip is a violent action.
Any thoughts?
another observation: I frequently see a lot of young (10U, 12U, 14U) pitchers who, although they don't include any discernible brush interference on their "fast" pitches, seem to be instructed to rely upon a hard brush when trying to take speed off for their change-up.
Which, by accepted Forum-definitions, is exactly the opposite thing to do.
(Brush elicits speed, not degrades it...)
Anyone else see this?
Just wondering if this is a phenomenon localized to PC's in my area?
(I have yet to see one of these pitchers who actually throws a good and reliable change by utilizing this method)
Which, by accepted Forum-definitions, is exactly the opposite thing to do.
(Brush elicits speed, not degrades it...)
Anyone else see this?
Just wondering if this is a phenomenon localized to PC's in my area?
(I have yet to see one of these pitchers who actually throws a good and reliable change by utilizing this method)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlIAHa7UOqE
In the rest of this video, "brushing" is actually taught. If you watch from the 12:00 to 19:00 mark, they are teaching the guy "brushing" you can clearly hear that word (brushing) even though it's in Japanese.
Also, I now think practicing the K-drill from a slight squat position is critical in teaching brush.
The squat allows the large muscles in the legs, especially the front leg, to counter-act the forces of the arm and ball which act to throw the body off line and make it difficult to truly appreciate the whip created by the brush. See the Sarah Pauly video clip in this thread to see how the the angle between the pelvis and the knees created by the squat helps keep her vertical as her arm and ball whip through. You can see this in almost all high level pitchers.
In the rest of this video, "brushing" is actually taught. If you watch from the 12:00 to 19:00 mark, they are teaching the guy "brushing" you can clearly hear that word (brushing) even though it's in Japanese.
Also, I now think practicing the K-drill from a slight squat position is critical in teaching brush.
The squat allows the large muscles in the legs, especially the front leg, to counter-act the forces of the arm and ball which act to throw the body off line and make it difficult to truly appreciate the whip created by the brush. See the Sarah Pauly video clip in this thread to see how the the angle between the pelvis and the knees created by the squat helps keep her vertical as her arm and ball whip through. You can see this in almost all high level pitchers.
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FiveFrameSwing
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I haven't seen it, or at least haven't taken note of it. Generally I'm looking for sequencing/whip for a fastball/dropball and de-sequencing/lack-of-whip for a CU.
FFS....I think the de-sequencing of the whip you are describing is what I teach......a good fastball has the elbow leading the ball into the strike zone(whip).....a good change up attempts to have the ball lead the elbow into the release zone(push) . Is that what you are suggesting?????
All the elite pitchers i know and the way I teach.....you should get brush contact on every pitch....the difference on the change up is that you don't allow the brush to transfer the energy into the fingers......they kind of "blow thru" the brush....plus they paralyze the fingers so there is minimal energy transferred into finger snap. I never encourage a hard brush and stopping action of the hand to try to take speed off the ball (I think that is what Corlay is seeing in his area)......it's the one pitch where I prefer a forced follow through.
Brush Interference like in the vid I posted stretches my imagination as to the amount of shock the arm/elbow/shoulder can withstand. I can only throw out the examples of three of the pitchers who were just selected to the NPF All Pro team.....ages 32,32,and 29. I hate to think how many pitches they have thrown and they all definitely get BI.
Someone with extensive biomechnical education needs to address this question.
Although I will say I get pretty significant B/I and am a couple years older than those girls and have never felt any arm, shoulder, elbow joint pain from pitching whereas most honeydo jobs cause a significant amount of pain.
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Thanks Rick. That is reassuring.
Any advice on the elbow sleeve that some top pitchers wear like Cat, Sarah, and Monica. Is this to reduce chaffing or bruising to the inside of the arm at brush interference or stylistic like the players that wear them in the NBA?
