These HE PCs are killing me...killing me

DD had her first pitching workout with her new team. The three other pitchers on the team work with the ORG PC and my DD is the lone wolf working with another PC. They all lined up did their thing and all the girls were throwing with I/R. My DD just didn't finish with the artificial HE tack on the other girls were using. So the PC tells the HC in a derogatory way that my DD pitches with her hand over the ball (because of the palm down finish she has) and that she must have been taught this way because it is not natural.

I have half a mind to video all of his students to show him that they are doing the same thing arm wise as my daughter despite his teaching but she just doesn't tack on anything at the end. I won't do it, but boy do I want to. My patience with this stupidity is getting pretty thin.

Smile and nod, smile and nod...

JJsqueeze said:

DD had her first pitching workout with her new team. The three other pitchers on the team work with the ORG PC and my DD is the lone wolf working with another PC. They all lined up did their thing and all the girls were throwing with I/R. My DD just didn't finish with the artificial HE tack on the other girls were using. So the PC tells the HC in a derogatory way that my DD pitches with her hand over the ball (because of the palm down finish she has) and that she must have been taught this way because it is not natural.

I have half a mind to video all of his students to show him that they are doing the same thing arm wise as my daughter despite his teaching but she just doesn't tack on anything at the end. I won't do it, but boy do I want to. My patience with this stupidity is getting pretty thin.

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When you posted before on whether to join TB I was tempted to post this.
What are your 2 best days when you own a boat?
The day you buy the boat and the day you sell the boat.
Reminds me of TB, sometimes.
So, I post it now as an attempt at humor.

Sorry if I tell this story a lot...

Older DD and I went to work with a locally respected PC who complimented her on her drop spin and movement, but said she needed to work on getting the hand behind the the ball to improve it... Sadly, DD didn't pursue SB past age 14.

[Hi-jack alert]
On the plus side (and to everyone's surprise,) she was asked to join the HS bowling team as a freshman. As a first time bowler starting on the C team, she quickly moved up to JV, then to varsity within a few weeks. They ended up taking the 4A district and state titles that year and the next. This year, as a Jr, she earned a spot at anchor on Wednesday when the regular anchor/team captain had to miss a match. She rolled 207 and 200! Crazy enough, the lead off girl (also a Jr) rolled a 255 and 181. These are scratch games! I NEVER thought we'd be thinking about colleges with bowling programs...
[End hi-jack/proud daddy moment]

Gotta add: A straight arm, palm forward and HE are actually acceptable in bowling. Whodathunk?

JJsqueeze said:

So the PC tells the HC in a derogatory way that my DD pitches with her hand over the ball (because of the palm down finish she has) and that she must have been taught this way because it is not natural.

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I have several reasons for being a TB coach, but this is definitely one of them. My DD is a pitcher, and, at least for now, she doesn't have to deal with this... I do have my concerns when she gets to HS. I know the coaches there are big h/e fans.

Good luck with this!!

I always tell them "The pitch is gone. Why do you want to make it difficult to field the ball?"

fastpitch26 said:

I have several reasons for being a TB coach, but this is definitely one of them. My DD is a pitcher, and, at least for now, she doesn't have to deal with this... I do have my concerns when she gets to HS. I know the coaches there are big h/e fans.

Good luck with this!!

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careful, careful... don't mess with the team's PC. DD did the I/R thing last year when every other pitcher was HE-ing, and guess what? she didn't get much mound time.

but i stuck to my guns and told them that DD will NEVER, EVER, pitch HE again!

oh, and BTW, it made me so sick when the PC told DD to snap it up!

My 11 YO DD has been pitching 3 years. She is a step pitcher so far, and first learned mechanics from a local JC PC who taught her I/R with brush. She since took lessons from several DI pitchers. Several of her HCs since have tried to play PC and adjust her mechanics with wrist snap warm-ups and HE finish (oh no, not again in this thread, right?). When I see it I politely tell the coach in private that is not what her PC has taught her. I got varied responses, from "she's not a pitcher" to "okay, sorry about that." So like Ken B suggested, I tend to smile and nod. Then I tell DD later to follow direction from her PC or she'll regress.

FastPitchCat said:

careful, careful... don't mess with the team's PC. DD did the I/R thing last year when every other pitcher was HE-ing, and guess what? she didn't get much mound time.

but i stuck to my guns and told them that DD will NEVER, EVER, pitch HE again!

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That is BS!! Your daughter should not have to deal with something like that. I feel terrible for your DD and hopefully the same thing does not happen with JJ. I am the closest thing our team has to a PC. We have three IR pitchers and one HE pitcher. I do what I can to help all of them. And although I feel strongly that IR is the better method, I will not force the HE pitcher to change. Mound time will be determined by results and has nothing to do with their method of pitching.