How to get 'junk' ball pitcher some respect?

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Just to add my two cents worth on this "junk ball" thread. I think BM hit it right on the head in his early post on this thread.
My desire for my students is that they have four distinctively different speeds.......which means they probably have four different movement pitches. Having said that, it is much easier to have "distinctively different speeds" if the top speed is high (all depends on age)......so high end speed is a huge asset. Here is an example of four distinctively different speeds (or as I call it....speed variation):
Dropball.....63 mph
Riseball/Curveball......58 mph
Offspeed Curve...50 mph
Change Up....45 mph

When a young lady can achieve something like this, she has transitioned from a "Thrower into a Pitcher".

For those who think their DD has topped out on speed I suggest you never give into that thought.......I know my own DD kept increasing her speed all the way up to 28 years old.
 
Jun 18, 2012
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What I find appalling is the number of coaches calling the pitches who won't or very rarely call a change-up. If a pitcher has a good change-up and it ain't bein' used, there's something wrong with the fella/gal who is calling the pitches! May have bumped his/her head somehow and lost the use of some of the brain.
 
Aug 10, 2015
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where we play the only junkballers that play on sunday are the ones with decent velocity while throwing their junk. Slow junkballers do ok in pool play only, its just a matter of time before hitters get em. I am with bm, in most cases you can't teach speed, they either have it or they don't. Trophy holders here have velocity that they can control as the main ingredient, after that their other stuff can just be so so, but the velocity makes it look good.
 
Oct 7, 2015
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10-Under Typical 37-41 MPH Top Pitchers 43-46
12-Under Typical 44-47 MPH Top Pitchers 50-53
14-Under Typical 46-49 MPH Top Pitchers 52-55
16-Under Typical 50-53 MPH Top Pitchers 54-57
18-Under Typical 53-56 MPH Top Pitchers 58-61
College Typical 59-64 MPH Top Pitchers 65-72

Do you think when they say "Typical" it means typical for Rec league? or typical for travel ball?
 

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