Screwball Video
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- Sep 3, 2015
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This is interesting timing, DD's coach wants her to have a screwball, and to me it just looked like an inside bullet spin pitch. After talking it over with her PC he agreed and encouraged her to throw a scrop instead, stepping to the left with an in and out arm motion then lean to the right and peel and come off the index and second fingers to get inward action (RHP).
She tried it and had pretty good results. It had different movement. PC also had her throw the rise with this motion as well and said it may be easier to get the proper rotation vs the normal way.
He also said do not throw the scrop to RHB until you know where it's going to go!
Interesting stuff
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She tried it and had pretty good results. It had different movement. PC also had her throw the rise with this motion as well and said it may be easier to get the proper rotation vs the normal way.
He also said do not throw the scrop to RHB until you know where it's going to go!
Interesting stuff
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Heaven help us all.
A huge mistake, do not go there!!! I would be suspect of any PC that teaches this.
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- Jan 9, 2015
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How is the wrist action humanly possible on a "scrop"??? do you have video?
The idea of throwing a "scrop" is ludicrous. Pitchers go through all kinds of silly gyrations to get what is more or less a good IR fastball. But I guess it helps sell lessons. 
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I am possibly describing this incorrectly, the idea is to get better movement than a screwball. The reason being is almost all screwballs thrown are inside bullet spin fastballs.
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Screwballs thrown inside are never bullet spin fastballs because they are not screwballs. Pitches are defined based on the outcome, not the intent of the pitcher. Intent is why so many kids have 5 - 7 pitches. If your DD has a good IR fastball, what do you expect to accomplish by completely changing her mechanics to throw this one pitch?
Are you prepared for what will happen when those screwball mechanics start to appear in her other pitches? That is what happened back in the day to DD#4. Yes the pitch was effective but it was the worst thing for her as a complete pitcher. We spent about a year losing the screw mechanics and perfecting her fastball. The same fastball that she threw in the SEC that most involved referred to as a screwball.
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I agree with what you are saying, and the PC said that this pitch breaks all the rules. I'm not saying she will start throwing it, I'm not saying it's a good idea. I was just relaying what happened at a lesson last night and it was 'different'.
I think an inside IR fastball is a great pitch, and even a backdoor curve as someone mentioned, she can throw that also.
So there is no screwball? I don't see how you could get any real movement that direction. And in your opinion an inside IR fastball serves the intent of a screwball?
DD only throws a drop, curve and change. Rise is still a work in progress.
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