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Hips or the Hands or both simultaneously(lets keep it simple)?
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Right, use your hands/forearms to turn the barrel behind you. Pitch location will dictate how the body moves (tilt,hand direction, back knee orientation) in
order to get the barrel to the ball. Again, jmho
So like Altuve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58NAlink9aU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs74FBMpPjk
That's definitely not 1 legged
. Looks like a lot of pulling and pushing being done with corresponding body parts(back hip push forward, front hip pulling back) to generate a ton of power.I played quite a bit of ball growing up, wasn't as technical when I played and I didn't play at a high level(high school, rec etc). However I played much more hockey and at a high level. That movement is very similar in many ways to how I would generate a lot of power when taking a slap shot.
I think I understand why you stress balance so much in a swing now, you can't really reproduce this type of movement if sitting on your back leg too much
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That's definitely not 1 legged
Careful now..when does he scissor? (Not sure I want to get into this conversation...
)uh-oh did I open a can of worms, an old heavily debated topic? . When looking at Trout above I see core/hips pulling and pushing to create an incredible amount of power. I'm not saying that the legs aren't an active player, but looks to me like the hips/core is the major engine. I've felt this before in other sports, the tight pivot and force crated by a counter rotating core is tremendous, especially when supported by energy/stability from the ground/surface flowing through the legs
. When looking at Trout above I see core/hips pulling and pushing to create an incredible amount of power. I'm not saying that the legs aren't an active player, but looks to me like the hips/core is the major engine. I've felt this before in other sports, the tight pivot and force crated by a counter rotating core is tremendous, especially when supported by energy/stability from the ground/surface flowing through the legs
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uh-oh did I open a can of worms, an old heavily debated topic?
In my mind being 1-legged just means that the front foot receives a majority of the pressure after swing launch vs getting to 50/50 or more before launch. I am not sure anything
you said above goes against being 1-legged.
I just can't see hips and core rotating with such force without being 50/50. I understand after how the weight transfers to the front foot after but at heel plant it seems one would have to be 50/50 in order to utilize major muscles most efficiently. Does that mean not being one legged, I think so, but I don't know for sure, . I can only draw on personal experience from other sports that require violent powerful actions with the core and hips. When W=w showed the clip of scissors, it dawned on me, light bulb moment for me. And maybe I am misinterpreting or not explaining myself right, but I definitely felt this before. Power from the core/hips supported by legs and connection with the ground/surface. It's intense
. I can only draw on personal experience from other sports that require violent powerful actions with the core and hips. When W=w showed the clip of scissors, it dawned on me, light bulb moment for me. And maybe I am misinterpreting or not explaining myself right, but I definitely felt this before. Power from the core/hips supported by legs and connection with the ground/surface. It's intense
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I just can't see hips and core rotating with such force without being 50/50. I understand after how the weight transfers to the front foot after but at heel plant it seems one would have to be 50/50 in order to utilize major muscles most efficiently. Does that mean not being one legged, I think so, but I don't know for sure,
Batting cage swing for Josh Donaldson... Watch when his front foot lands. By that time, he is already torquing the handle of the bat. IMO, this is Shift AND Swing, instead of Shift THEN Swing. I have given up on the 1-leg/2-leg talk because there are too many interpretations. My interpretation of 1-leg is in line with what [MENTION=14754]pattar[/MENTION] stated in his post "front foot receives a majority of the pressure after swing launch". It's really no more complicated than that. Does the COG move towards the pitcher before that occurs? Sure it does. But that has never really been part of the 1-leg discussion. The COG can move forward and still be 1-legged.
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The 1 vs 2 leg has always been about what the swing pivots around. 2 legged swing around spine. 1 legged swing around rear leg.
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