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Jan 6, 2009
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Does anyone teach the front leg drives the hips open, GRF, so the GRF snaps the hips open?

Or does anyone teach like Epstein's the front leg triggers the swing/hips?
 
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Jun 17, 2009
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Does anyone teach the front leg drives the hips open, GRF, so the GRF snaps the hips open?

Or does anyone teach like Epstein's the front leg triggers the swing/hips?

Within reason, one could make an argument for both stances.

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Jan 6, 2009
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Chehalis, Wa
5frames,

Proper back leg action, supports the torso action and doesn't create the torso action that is being taught by some.

Back leg action, screwing the leg into the ground to support the hip action and stabilizing the hip. Weight gets back as a result, onto the back heel. Then the lower back arches bringing the hip/back leg into the swing creating internal rotation. The spine/torso engine runs the show and not the back leg.
 
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5frames,

Proper back leg action, supports the torso action and doesn't create the torso action that is being taught by some.

Back leg action, screwing the leg into the ground to support the hip action and stabilizing the hip. Weight gets back as a result, onto the back heel. Then the lower back arches bringing the hip/back leg into the swing creating internal rotation. The spine/torso engine run the show and not the back leg.

There are lots of different muscles employed in order to swing a bat. And the order in which these muscles fire and the emphasis on which muscles are dominate can be different for different hitters. Which muscles are driving and which ones are assisting can vary. Then you get into what the hitter "feels" they are doing and now it is another can of worms. Justin Stone talks about no cookie cutter approach. He is doing mobility and strength testing on his students to see what swing is best for them and also create a exercise program specifically designed to work on the students weaknesses. Think it $229. He says most youth hitters lack abs and lats strength. Think he might be right.
 
Jan 6, 2009
6,626
113
Chehalis, Wa
There are lots of different muscles employed in order to swing a bat. And the order in which these muscles fire and the emphasis on which muscles are dominate can be different for different hitters. Which muscles are driving and which ones are assisting can vary. Then you get into what the hitter "feels" they are doing and now it is another can of worms. Justin Stone talks about no cookie cutter approach. He is doing mobility and strength testing on his students to see what swing is best for them and also create a exercise program specifically designed to work on the students weaknesses. Think it $229. He says most youth hitters lack abs and lats strength. Think he might be right.

Your right, I think the old saying goes something like, teach movement/motion patterns and not muscles. The back leg does play a role in rotation and I shouldn't say it only supports the torso action.
 
Jan 6, 2009
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I'm not big on creating a muscled up swing, Lindor's swing is relaxed and smooth, I like it allot. Thanks for posting it 5frames.
 

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