Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 47

Thread: Staying back

  1. #21
    I can talk softball all day Jcuevas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Omaha, Ne
    Posts
    139
    Thanks
    137
    Thanked 49 Times in 31 Posts

    Default

    The 1-legged vs 2-legged is simple...
    One stays "coiled" "loaded" "stretched" or whatever wording you like, till launch. The other leaks forward hence 2-legged. Grab a bat and try it. It's no secret sauce. Swing to shift vs shift to swing is the same stuff. So when a coach says "stay back", they usually mean hit 1-legged but they just don't know it. Well most...
    Another big one is "control your forward move". Same thing because you're not controlling anything with your front side.

    Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk

  2. #22
    I can talk softball all day Rolling Hard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    287
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 51 Times in 44 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jcuevas View Post
    The 1-legged vs 2-legged is simple...
    One stays "coiled" "loaded" "stretched" or whatever wording you like, till launch. The other leaks forward hence 2-legged. Grab a bat and try it. It's no secret sauce. Swing to shift vs shift to swing is the same stuff. So when a coach says "stay back", they usually mean hit 1-legged but they just don't know it. Well most...
    Another big one is "control your forward move". Same thing because you're not controlling anything with your front side.

    Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk
    I need video. Would it be correct to say that the 2 legged hitter launches his swing before foot plant? Is there any good 2 legged hitters?

  3. #23
    I can talk softball all day Rolling Hard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    287
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 51 Times in 44 Posts

    Default

    Also could somebody freeze frame the time of launch on this JD video?

  4. #24
    Ex "Expert" Cannonball's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    3,675
    Thanks
    1,498
    Thanked 4,543 Times in 1,775 Posts

    Default

    I have never used the terms 1 legged or 2 legged. I don't think of hitting in those terms. I often hear "stay back" and it seems to me that it means something different to a lot of hitting coaches. For me, I want the core and the back hip to be a focus. I make sure that whether hitting off of a tee or live, my hitters always have a plate. I have them put a ball in the area of the dirt or mat alongside the area of the plate that goes to the back point. I ask my hitters to use that ball on the ground as a restraint. The goal then is to drive the back knee forward and downward controlling the hip action, get the bow pulled back and the knob pointed at the ball and then try to do most of that behind a that restraint. That is "staying back" to me. I want that back hip straightening that front leg so it is important that the front knee be flexed. That helps prevent a push backwards over the back knee. I see so many hitters doing that action in their attempt to "stay back."

    I hope that some of this makes sense to you. Take my advice with a grain of salt. As I so often mention, I'm an "ex expert."
    My opinions here are simply that, My Opinions. I'm an ex expert. I no longer care to have to be right.

  5. #25
    Ex "Expert" Cannonball's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    3,675
    Thanks
    1,498
    Thanked 4,543 Times in 1,775 Posts

    Default

    Well, pretty much killed this thread, didn't I. LOL
    My opinions here are simply that, My Opinions. I'm an ex expert. I no longer care to have to be right.

  6. #26
    Certified softball maniac pattar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    1,337
    Thanks
    251
    Thanked 701 Times in 454 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonball View Post
    Well, pretty much killed this thread, didn't I. LOL
    Nah, people are just trying to digest what you said and may find the process similar to eating Tacos at Taco Bell ( I kid )

  7. #27
    I can talk softball all day Rolling Hard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    287
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 51 Times in 44 Posts

    Default

    "alongside the area of the plate that goes to the back point. I ask my hitters to use that ball on the ground as a restraint. "

    Back point of the plate? I am lost. Should I assume that that the hitter is hitting the ball at the front of the plate? Stay behind the ball?

    Nobody commented on my head stays back while hips more forward changing spine angle and flattening out the swing.

  8. #28
    I can talk softball all day Gags's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    382
    Thanks
    284
    Thanked 128 Times in 99 Posts

    Default

    Took me a few reads to picture it correctly - I'm assuming a ball is placed in the dirt next to homeplate, where the plate cuts in to form the point. The ball is a reference point. Sounds similar in purpose to the cue I use of "swinging behind you", as a way to encourage a "swoosh" bat path (behind and through). Many of the girls I work with (8-10YO) end up swinging late and in front of them - lots and lots of ground balls.

    CB - when you said "knob pointed at the ball" - which ball are you referring to? I can see it both ways - as a replacement for knob to the catcher (since there's rarely a catcher during BP), or did you mean in reference to the ball in flight or on the tee?

  9. #29
    I can talk softball all day Jcuevas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Omaha, Ne
    Posts
    139
    Thanks
    137
    Thanked 49 Times in 31 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolling Hard View Post
    I need video. Would it be correct to say that the 2 legged hitter launches his swing before foot plant? Is there any good 2 legged hitters?
    This Martinez gif is good video. If shifting is what you mean from launch then yes. There's good 2-legged hitters everywhere. The difference is Pro vs Us. Pro knows how to "stay back", we would probably lunge forward.

    Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk

  10. #30
    Ex "Expert" Cannonball's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    3,675
    Thanks
    1,498
    Thanked 4,543 Times in 1,775 Posts

    Default

    I will respond. Grandpuppy sitting and she is not having me sit with this computer on. LOL
    My opinions here are simply that, My Opinions. I'm an ex expert. I no longer care to have to be right.

Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Segment -- Burn -- Conversion --