FiveFrameSwing
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Does anyone consider 'staying back' to simply be the launching of the swing with a 'one-legged mentality'?
Staying back
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I don't understand one legged swing. I see him clearly rotating around his axis (spine) with his mass, torso, belly button,hips moving (shifting) towards the pitcher well before he starts to swing(turn,launch). The swing(weight of the bat and arms) swinging around his axis help completes the shift. But it didn't cause the shift. His swing is much different than the beloved Barry Bonds model. I like JD's swing and believe it would be much easier and more efficient to model.
Staying back might not be the correct language. He has swing flexion or is balanced as the heel plants.
I am not a fan of the 'one-legged' and 'two-legged' buzz words. But essentially, that is what I do.
During out latest batting session my DD was back into her old nasty habit of all back/all forward which resulted poor swings and no room to adjust. She asked what she was doing wrong and I couldn't tell right away because I was the one doing the live pitching. However I could see after throwing a couple of change ups what was wrong. I told her she was all back/all forward. I advised her to continuously pinch her scap into heel plant, the improved result was instantaneous.
So to answer your question, I don't focus on being one legged. Staying back to me translates into creating separation.. hands stay back/core is torqued until heel plant when the hips open up.
FiveFrameSwing
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Not great advice IMO.
It is more that the rear scap becomes retracted from the trunk's/torso's rotation.
This is actually important IMO.
One way to view the swing is that the rear arm is not brought backwards to then be brought forward ... more it is a 'loop' which has the barrel being sent 'around' the rear forearm. Hitters that are able to maintain a loose rear shoulder such that their trunk's rotation 'shocks' the rear shoulder into retraction are more able to swing with this loop-like action. Forcing the retraction ahead of time is not good IMO ... neither is muscling the rear shoulder to dampen/avoid the retraction ... more it is about relatively quick application of the torso engine which creates the retraction. Muscle looseness is a big part of the swing.
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FiveFrameSwing
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Right ... if one is 'out of their rear leg' prematurely, then their torso-engine's contribution to swing launch will not yield the 'shortness' we are after.
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This is a high and inside curve. I thought is was interesting that he delays the heel plant.
He got fooled and was able to delay at heel plant because of a resisting backside and core. I can only imagine the amount of tension through his core he felt at heel plant
Retracted .. Pinched .. I didn't explain using the best terminology and understand and I agree with what you are saying. I don't agree with the arm/hands moving straight back and then straight forward, I don't think I mentioned that anywhere. Staying loose is something we focus on a lot. With that being said, there's more than one way to skin a cat... and what some might view as a poor way to explain things might work for that student/DD etc. It's working for my DD, the results are much improved. Of course that doesn't mean I won't use some of what you are saying above and evaluate the results.
Thanks
So, does the scap loop? therefore the arm loops? and so then the hands loop? Hands do the nike logo? Also FFS, please explain or post gifs of one legged vs 2 legged. Do you consider JD's swing one legged? To me, his swing is a simple large man swing. Very controlled violence. He doesn't get paid more to hit them 600 ft. He seems to know that 450 ft. gets the job done. Playing in Boston will extend his career , with 37 doubles and 43 HRs this year, he MAYBE get to 500 career dingers. If you have a larger framed DD this is a swing to model, not BB.IMO
