Shoulder turn

FiveFrameSwing said:

To answer the OP’s initial post …

'Yes' the shoulders turn … but you don’t want this to occur with ‘active shoulders’, but with an active torso/hip-engine. Using 'active shoulders' will bypass the desired action.

As for ‘timing’ … 'yes' again ... you are close to being on the correct path ... because this action is part of the 'timing' … but it is not the ‘shoulders being actively turned’ that is 'timed', but instead is about timing with an active torso/hip engine, which in turn ‘turns the shoulders’. Go forward ... i.e., 'move out' with a mentality of 'preparing the torso to pull' ... that is how one times an incoming pitch ... then 'twitch'/'pull'/'engage the torso/hip-engine'.

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Tango said:

I think we are saying the same thing. Hold it until it's time to go but don't actively try to turn. I'm seeing a lot of kids get a good stretch but the bat is staying back while the turn is happening and now you have bat drag.

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mann said:

This is the drill i use for hitting the ball with the rear hip. It turns the shoulders.

I start most of these isolation type drills in the sat position, with tension already present. There are some things i might do different now with the bat, but im sure others will help with flaws with this drill

I place the ball inside or outside out front or deep for hips.

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FiveFrameSwing said:

A feeling of the torso/hip-engine creating a 'pull' from the lead lat is a good thing.

Those that by-pass such a 'pull' by actively using their arms/shoulders ... or that don't setup their torso during the 'move out' to perform such a 'pull', are missing out IMO.

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Shawn said:

5frames,

I believe in the pulling through the torso/lead arm, although I don't think you can help the pulling. Meaning you can't really think about the pulling action or physically think about helping it out.

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