Swing plane

julray said:

So basically loading into a firmer backside will help alleviate the "up" issues we are seeing..

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Yes, by not "sitting" in her stance, but rather getting "SAT" in her move out.

IOWs, staying "tall" on the rear leg until the IR of the rear knee causes the angular "shortening" of the backside to get "SAT".

Mudders Brudder said:

Yes, by not "sitting" in her stance, but rather getting "SAT" in her move out.

IOWs, staying "tall" on the rear leg until the IR of the rear knee causes the angular "shortening" of the backside to get "SAT".

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MB, would you consider the swing in question a Shift Then Swing?

I think one is bopping the catcher on the head and the other is getting the barrel on plane with the body/lead arm.

DRDRODD said:

MB, would you consider the swing in question a Shift Then Swing?

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Hard to say with just that partial clip, but from just that....no, it looks that her weight is shifting into the ball as she's starting/"launching" her swing.

Mudders Brudder said:

Hard to say with just that partial clip, but from just that....no, it looks that her weight is shifting into the ball as she's starting/"launching" her swing.

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Here's the full clip MB...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx4IESU4Mag

We will working on that back leg.. but tbh I think it's already much better because we did discuss this after seeing this clip couple months ago. I also think she may be popping up because she's swinging with shoulders too hard. I believe her lead shoulder is getting ahead of lead arm.. this causes it to flatten against the chest and drag behind. Then she needs to adjust by popping up in order to get the barrel on the ball. IDK.. could be wrong

Shawn said:

I think one is bopping the catcher on the head and the other is getting the barrel on plane with the body/lead arm.

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One is also dealing with pitch higher in the strike (see catchers glove).. the other ball is placed at the thigh , bad angle I know. Would she be able to get on plane and through the ball with Sosa's type movement? I'm open to criticism.. just not sure I understand completely

Shawn said:

I think one is bopping the catcher on the head and the other is getting the barrel on plane with the body/lead arm.

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As respectfully as possible I totally disagree with the idea of getting on plane with the lead arm and/or the body

julray said:

Here's the full clip MB...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx4IESU4Mag

We will working on that back leg.. but tbh I think it's already much better because we did discuss this after seeing this clip couple months ago. I also think she may be popping up because she's swinging with shoulders too hard. I believe her lead shoulder is getting ahead of lead arm.. this causes it to flatten against the chest and drag behind. Then she needs to adjust by popping up in order to get the barrel on the ball. IDK.. could be wrong

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This is very accurate in my opinion ' Its casting and trailing. not much bat control with this swing. Its what i think of when MUD talks about his swing theory.

it can be fixed very easy.

mann said:

This is very accurate in my opinion ' Its casting and trailing. not much bat control with this swing. Its what i think of when MUD talks about his swing theory.

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Well then you'd been wrong in your thinking if you equate that swing to my swing theory.

After looking at the entire clip...yes, she is already "sitting" in her stance, and sits even further into it as she loads/coils, and thus then pushes up, and forward out of it, and actually has to "shift" her weight forward into her lead leg, in order to get leverage from that leg before she can start to TTB, and swing/launch the bat/barrel...

Unfortunately this is just another form of "Shift THEN Swing", and why I said earlier that it was "Hard to say with just that partial clip", and why I would need the full one to say for sure.

Julray, please don't let where the information comes from distract you from the information itself as some who've proven to never understand it are trying to do to or for you.

If you don't want to hear it from me that's fine, but please then listen to members like rdbass who understand it, FP26 who has a great grasp of it, pattar whose showing he's got a good handle on it, Buttermaker who has posted some really nice clips of his hitters doing/using it, or any of the others who right off the top of my head I know I'm forgetting (my apologies in advance to those members).

But please don't throw the baby out with the bath water. I believe that you're starting to understand what it is that many of us are saying, and have used with a lot of success...and it would be a shame if those who still don't get it derail your efforts in making your DD into the hitter that I really think she can become.

All the best, and good luck,
MB

I said earlier that it was "Hard to say with just that partial clip", and why I would need the full one to say for sure.

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Mud is a poster to be LISTEN too.....very respected by me and I'm sure others.