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TDS

Mar 11, 2010
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TDS, I agree with your above statement, but I also see what would be "down across/around the ball" the ball in this clip you also posted....
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...especially with his lack of "extension", and a left hand turn around his body, and a back to almost vertical bat in relation to his hands on the "follow-through".

What am I missing, or does that observation make any sense to you also?

I see it more as Betts way of staying inside (hands leading) for pitches up and out within the zone (horizontal plane).. Similar to the feel Trout has accept his is more for an up/in pitch.
 
Jan 6, 2009
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Shawn all swings are launched down but not down across/around the ball.

I agree the swing is down, or at least the back elbow comes down as the hands remain around the back shoulder height. I found this out myself swinging a bat. I couldn't stop dumping the barrel rearward and focused on swing down (in the manner I described) and the dump went away.

That is what is taking place in the gif you posted as well (swinging down with the hands remaining up, until the back elbow has been swung down).
 
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Apr 11, 2015
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I agree the swing is down, or at least the back elbow comes down as the hands remain around the back shoulder height. I found this out myself swinging a bat. I couldn't stop dumping the barrel rearward and focused on swing down (in the manner I described) and the dump went away.

That is what is taking place in the gif you posted as well (swinging down with the hands remaining up, until the back elbow has been swung down).
I personally see that warmup swing as more of a "hands out front ahead of the hips" type of swing, and not something I'd teach kids. But unless we were able to get inside Mookie's brain, and know what he's thinking wrt it, and what his thought process is that he's taking to the plate as a result of it....we're all simply guessing at this point in time. IMO anyway....
 
May 3, 2014
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So your saying the vertical dumping TM shows is just for feel and not the actual swing objective?

Have you seen video of Rich swinging a bat? He looks more like Brett than someone with a tipped start. But, either way you have to supinate the rear forearm to get the barrel going down the rear side of the swing plane. The twitter link provided by bass is showing the exact thing of a swing plane set by the hands https://www.discussfastpitch.com/softball-hitting-technical/34485-latest-guru-twitter-19.html#post481005
 
Apr 20, 2018
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He is practicing not dumping the barrel. An exaggerated move to stay on top. The anti-snap move. You don't have to snap to hit .300+. This guy is a real pro working on his craft. What they feel or say is often different to what they do. Doesn't look anything like what would be taught. But it's working for him at the highest level.
 
Apr 20, 2018
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This is a great swing. But his swing is nothing like Barry Bonds! Don't know how this little guy does it. And hits for power too. It just inconceivable.
 

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