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Jun 17, 2009
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Edmonds loads his rear leg. Finley is two legged so, moving forward to his front leg then swing.

Similar perspective ... in the example Edmonds does a better job of "staying in his leg".

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May 24, 2013
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So Cal
To me, rearward action is going to occur some no matter what you teach. The key is to limit rearward action as much as possible. I teach “up and out” with stride leg while moving forward. Weight going back means girls must get started way sooner than a girl that picks up stride foot and moves forward immediately

I prefer a hitter that starts their pre-launch movement process slow and early. Trying to be quick from start of movement to foot down in an effort to make the swing quicker to the ball is focusing on the wrong thing, IMO. That said, there are right and wrong ways to go back. Shifting weight over the outside of the rear foot is a wrong way.
 
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Jan 6, 2009
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Chehalis, Wa
I prefer a hitter that starts their pre-launch movement process slow and early. Trying to be quick from start of movement to foot down in an effort to make the swing quicker to the ball is focusing on the wrong thing, IMO. That said, there are right and wrong ways to go back. Shifting weight over the outside of the rear for is a wrong way.

Yes quick and fast usually involves muscling up or to much tension. It's rushing everything to happen quickly. That said it is a method "widely" used in fastpitch.
 
May 24, 2013
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Yes quick and fast usually involves muscling up or to much tension. It's rushing everything to happen quickly. That said it is a method "widely" used in fastpitch.

Yep. With young hitters, I see this typically become an all-forward push with no separation or stretch, completely bypassing the ability to generate meaningful power.
 
Jan 6, 2009
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Chehalis, Wa
To me, rearward action is going to occur some no matter what you teach. The key is to limit rearward action as much as possible. I teach “up and out” with stride leg while moving forward. Weight going back means girls must get started way sooner than a girl that picks up stride foot and moves forward immediately

You teach up first correct?
 
Aug 20, 2017
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I teach to start with front heel slightly off the ground with weight about 55% forward in stance. Pick front knee up slightly and move forward (up and out). My experience with the gather/load/weight back thing has been that most girls move back and stay back. Weight slightly forward and stance with heel slightly up basically encourages forward movement.
 
May 24, 2013
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So Cal
I teach to start with front heel slightly off the ground with weight about 55% forward in stance. Pick front knee up slightly and move forward (up and out). My experience with the gather/load/weight back thing has been that most girls move back and stay back. Weight slightly forward and stance with heel slightly up basically encourages forward movement.

The way you have described it, this is not something I would teach - at any age. Forward to more forward is not what I would consider part of a high-level swing pattern.

The swing should transfer weight from back to front (some consider it back to middle).
 
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