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    I was just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on the spinal engine? I will post what I've heard, but I really want to know everyone's thoughts on the subject.
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    Very interesting Shawn...He talks about foot strike roughly a minute in....again, very interesting and thanks for sharing


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    Strike3,

    Thanks for the reply. One of the actions I have in question is the lower back arching. Which leads to hip extension. I've heard the lower back arching as part of the spinal engine. So I was wondering if this is something others consider as the spinal engine.

    There are other actions I have in question, as the spinal engine.
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    Shawn, the arching of the lower back is part of core usage in the swing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveFrameSwing View Post
    Shawn, the arching of the lower back is part of core usage in the swing.
    Is the core usage the same as the spinal engine? And is the Catapult loading System use of the core, hunched upper back, shoulders tilted downwards, showing the numbers, X springy fascia usage, is that the core actions that is different from the actual spinal engine?

    You bring up a very good point to my question, is core usage and spinal engine different?
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    Shawn, I haven't recently reviewed the spinal engine concepts ... however, it was my personal interpretation when reviewing it earlier that it was about core usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    You bring up a very good point to my question, is core usage and spinal engine different?
    The "spine" is basically just a bony structure incapable of creating independent direct movement on its own, and like other bones is simply a rotational axis for the other surrounding muscles that expand and contract to create the actual movement. Thus as a very rudimentary example of the arching the back asked about...the spine is tracks the train runs on, but the core muscles are the actual "engine".

    IOWs, we can understand what Gracovetsky is getting at wrt the legs not necessarily be the only components required or needed for a person to "walk"...but I think he's confusing "effect" with "cause", because like other bones, the spine is moved by muscles, not the other way around...and as such, it's a bit of a stretch of call the spine an "engine" regardless how one tries to slice it or redefine it...no matter what he saw in a patient "walking" w/o legs. Once again, JMO...YMMV.

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    In reference to 'engines', folks have often heard discussions on "hips and hands". To me, what is often described as 'hips', should be the 'core'.

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    The spine is not an 'engine'.
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    How about this:
    The spine is part of the engine- the crankshaft.

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