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May 24, 2013
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Thanks Eric, I enjoyed my time with you, and Maddie as well. Hope she's still tearing the cover off the ball. =)

We enjoyed it to - probably me more than her. I hope we have the chance to hang out again.

As for ball covers, this is one she hit hast year (12U)...
y9XoI09.jpg
 
Jun 17, 2009
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Portland, OR
MB, the notion of 'swinging down' isn't for everyone. Over the years I looked into the notion several times and tossed it aside. I do use the notion with several hitters currently, with the objective of realizing a compact swing with the hand-path that we are after.

From the RVP-Connection-Point-Position (i.e., upright power-vee) the barrel is thrown/swung into what can be thought of as an inverted-vee … added in ‘magenta’ below.

Downswing_Barrel_Down_Hands_Up_Inverted_Vee.gif


I find the notion of “keep the hands up” to be a big assist in helping hitters swing through an upright power-vee. I find it helps with the hand-path for hitters that like a mental objective … as opposed to a physical movement objective.

Likewise the notion of “swing/throw the barrel down to the ball, NOT the hands” is also a good objective for those that prefer an objective based swing objective.

Combined … “keep the hands up, swing/throw the barrel down (not the hands)” helps hitters realize a good hand-path.

Adding related GIF ....

Cabrera_Swing_Down.gif
 
Jun 17, 2009
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Portland, OR
I guess that's "one way to view" it. But I also like your view of "around and along" much better if I was choosing something else than I'm using now.

There is a notion that the swing is not brought rearward to simply be brought forward. Instead the barrel is in a sense being continuously brought rearward ... that is the barrel path rearward is not the same as the barrel path forward ... and that the path is more a loop. To understand this perspective it helps to grasp the notion of 'around' ... as in the barrel works around the rear-forearm in the direction of rear-forearm supination.

It has been my experience that teaching this is more a function of getting 'swing launch' happening with a looseness in the rear shoulder such that the initial rotation of the torso-engine shocks/surprises/results in the rear shoulder becoming semi-retracted as the top-hand attempts to stay up (i.e., not become lowered by the adductive pull of the torso-engine on the rear upper arm).
 
Jul 26, 2016
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MB, the notion of 'swinging down' isn't for everyone. Over the years I looked into the notion several times and tossed it aside. I do use the notion with several hitters currently, with the objective of realizing a compact swing with the hand-path that we are after.

From the RVP-Connection-Point-Position (i.e., upright power-vee) the barrel is thrown/swung into what can be thought of as an inverted-vee … added in ‘magenta’ below.

Downswing_Barrel_Down_Hands_Up_Inverted_Vee.gif


I find the notion of “keep the hands up” to be a big assist in helping hitters swing through an upright power-vee. I find it helps with the hand-path for hitters that like a mental objective … as opposed to a physical movement objective.

Likewise the notion of “swing/throw the barrel down to the ball, NOT the hands” is also a good objective for those that prefer an objective based swing objective.

Combined … “keep the hands up, swing/throw the barrel down (not the hands)” helps hitters realize a good hand-path.

I use the cue “like a "J" laying on the side" for the hand path, I.e slightly down then level.
 
Jul 16, 2013
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Pennsylvania
MB, the notion of 'swinging down' isn't for everyone. Over the years I looked into the notion several times and tossed it aside. I do use the notion with several hitters currently, with the objective of realizing a compact swing with the hand-path that we are after.

From the RVP-Connection-Point-Position (i.e., upright power-vee) the barrel is thrown/swung into what can be thought of as an inverted-vee … added in ‘magenta’ below.

Downswing_Barrel_Down_Hands_Up_Inverted_Vee.gif


I find the notion of “keep the hands up” to be a big assist in helping hitters swing through an upright power-vee. I find it helps with the hand-path for hitters that like a mental objective … as opposed to a physical movement objective.

Likewise the notion of “swing/throw the barrel down to the ball, NOT the hands” is also a good objective for those that prefer an objective based swing objective.

Combined … “keep the hands up, swing/throw the barrel down (not the hands)” helps hitters realize a good hand-path.

Bold above... The combination of "keep the hands up" and "throw the barrel down" provides a nice description of "turn the barrel".
 
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