I came across this video and wondered if anyone else has watched it and had any thoughts. I agree with the idea that we are utilizing the upper half of our bodies to create stretch in the fascia of our muscles or what he calls it as our "springy X pattern." More specifically, when I load the upper half, I feel more of a stretch in my lead-arm side's lat. I also believe that most here agree that when a batter does " the move," that it is an absolute that we don't turn or rotate our bodies so that our back knee causes our lower leg to externally rotate. IOW, the back knee should basically remain static. At the 4:10 mark he talks about the Goldilocks Golden rule meaning we shouldn't go too far back or not at all but then he states that he would rather have "my hitters load their springy tissue this way," with a neutral hip position. So again, I agree with the statement that we shouldn't go too far back or not do it at all, but what about creating separation with the lower half? There has to be a stretch between the upper and lower halves.
I don't see how one creates this with loading the top half exclusively. Isn't true that we are creating a powerful swing from the ground up starting with our lower half?
Looking at Noontime's GIFs, I see that most hitters do show the pitcher their back pocket during the sequence. Video evidence doesn't support the idea that the majority of HL hitters have a quite lower half that I think is being taught in the video. I did find some clips though that show some great hitters without a pronounced or barely noticeable turn in their hips. So is the IR (front side) and showing the back pocket (lower half) an absolute or hitting style? Are Harper and others below a part of the "Biggest Lie in Hitting?"
Examples of showing the back pocket:
Title is wrong as this is Evan Longoria.
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David Wright
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Miguel Cabrera
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Bryce Harper
https://media.giphy.com/media/xT4uQsF9a28gS908NO/giphy.gif
Examples of Not Showing the back pocket:
Will Clark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AOmyjDHVf8
Ryan Howard
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Barry Bonds
https://media.giphy.com/media/tafPnqSiApMLC/giphy.gif
There is:
I’ve only read a portion of Myers book (Catapult Loading System), so I can’t say definitively what he teaches for later portions of the swing. But isn’t it more important to create separation while moving forward (FBC?), than to start separated via a more static position?
Several recent threads have referred to “getting sat” and “hip hinge”. It looks like Myers would agree with those ideas based on his stance during the video. I’m only speculating, but I think the neutral hips / belly button cue is Myers’ way of helping hitters avoid an all back/all forward or door-hinge swing.
I can load the rear leg by twisting back, but if I add that hip hinge, I feel more tension with less rearward twist of the pelvis (or is hip bone the right term?). To tie this back to the video, less twist means when I dip my front shoulder, I’m getting greater stretch of that backside “springy-X”, which turns into more power when you start to swing (and that backside stretch becomes a contraction).
Regarding the ground up forces - remember that it’s a reactionary force - a “ground up” swing is kind of a misnomer, b/c the force, as I again understand it, really starts in our core, THEN travels down our legs to both help us push off our back foot (depending on the swing style) and eventually brace and straighten our front leg. (But in all honesty, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if this last paragraph gets blown up, I mean corrected, by DFP’s more knowledgeable members!)
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This particular 'model' of the swing ignores the frontside contribution ... the entire core is used.
Your analysis is weak as usual. Of course, the entire core is used. The video is to illustrate the axis.
Right, I should have said that it was all forearms .... hahahaha ... now that is a weak analysis.
Or you can just laterally bend...
No, just use the forearms .