Fixing a Segmented Swing and a flat lead elbow...?'s

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Heck even the shoulders and the arms should beat the hands. The hands better resist long enough to get the other parts moving. Could you imagine a pitcher letting the hands move first? That would be a a disaster. Worst thought ever is to let the hands tell the rest of the body anything at all.
 
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Feb 16, 2015
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Heck even the shoulders and the arms should beat the hands. The hands better resist long enough to get the other parts moving. Could you imagine a pitcher letting the hands move first? That would be a a disaster. Worst thought ever is to let the hands tell the rest of the body anything at all.

I truly feel sorry for the hitters you work with, if you actually do work with any.

Do you actually believe a pitchers hand plays the same role as a hitters hands???
 
Feb 16, 2015
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I tell my hitters that the lead side gets to pulling as the rear side gets to throwing.

If you embrace how the lead side pulls, then you'll have the 'flattening' process as the barrel is 'worked/arc'd/orbited'.

Are you saying that the lead side pulling is an active thought for your hitters? I would have to think that the thought of throwing with the rear side would recruit the front side to pull but not the other way around. It kind of sounds like you are saying that the hands aren't active during this part of the swing, is that correct?
 
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Do you actually believe a pitchers hand plays the same role as a hitters hands???

Absolutely. The best athletes on a team are pitchers. They know how to use their hands to create whip. In softball they're the best hitters. Unfortunate that most coaches dont let them hit. But some do and the coach is rewarded for it. Heres a fact for you mr drodd if a softball player can pitch they can hit.
 
Mar 2, 2018
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Theres a reason the pitchers are the best athletes on a team. Its because theyre taught to use their hands to work late for whip.
 
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Ball speed and direction depend on late hand movement. Early hand movement kills speed and direction. I can tell who doesnt know anything about working with pitchers. Its pretty doggone obvious.
 
Feb 16, 2015
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Absolutely. The best athletes on a team are pitchers. They know how to use their hands to create whip. In softball they're the best hitters. Unfortunate that most coaches dont let them hit. But some do and the coach is rewarded for it. Heres a fact for you mr drodd if a softball player can pitch they can hit.

Okay I see now, you are a straight "old school" type of hitting coach. You teach everything that your Grandfather & Father were taught as a child. Good Luck with that Gibraltor, I hope your hitters have much success.
 
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Feb 16, 2015
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Ball speed and direction depend on late hand movement. Early hand movement kills speed and direction. I can tell who doesnt know anything about working with pitchers. Its pretty doggone obvious.

Last time I checked this is the hitting thread not pitching.

Here is a little tip for you if you want to compare hitters to pitchers, you need to look at the pitchers elbow as the hands of a hitter & the forearm and hand of the pitcher as the bat of the hitter.
 
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Feb 16, 2015
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Heck even the shoulders and the arms should beat the hands. The hands better resist long enough to get the other parts moving. Could you imagine a pitcher letting the hands move first? That would be a a disaster. Worst thought ever is to let the hands tell the rest of the body anything at all.

I have to tell you Gibraltor, this is an absolute first for me and probably this entire site. Most people come to this site looking for a fix to help STOP bat drag but you are actually promoting it. I HIGHLY recommend you do a search on Bat Drag & DBSF in the search engine of the site. If you don't want to do it for yourself, PLEASE at least do it for the hitters you work with.
 
Jun 17, 2009
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Are you saying that the lead side pulling is an active thought for your hitters? I would have to think that the thought of throwing with the rear side would recruit the front side to pull but not the other way around. It kind of sounds like you are saying that the hands aren't active during this part of the swing, is that correct?

I am saying that if the lead side is not pulling then you need to work on the lead side pulling.

If you work with enough kids you'll see that what is recruited for some kids, is not recruited for others.

Many don't even realize that they are pulling until you bring it to their attention. Many don't understand that the 'lead side pull' plays a major roll in the 'direction' of the 'throw'. Many don't get that there is a marriage between the 'lead side pulling' action and the orbiting of the barrel. Many can learn this and become quite productive hitters.
 

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