Fixing a Segmented Swing and a flat lead elbow...?'s
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Your trigger is turning the barrel with the hands and that puts the hands ahead of everything. Stretch is just released without any effort to release it? The hands tell the stretch to release? You have no whip to hit with. Im gonna tell you again against good pitching your toast.
In all fairness to you I think your trying to explain something you dont understand.
In all fairness to you I think your trying to explain something you dont understand.
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Yea it does that is why I wrote flattening & torquing also, different strokes for different folks. I was trying to use the terminology that people on this forum are used to. I view turning the barrel as a flatting process to get on plane before the release. IMO there is no dying that the barrel is arching while this is taking place so I see where Turning the Barrel also makes sense. Isn't the stretching process the storing of kinetic energy? That is ultimately the point I am trying to make the body will support the role of the hands. When the brain tells the hands to smoke the ball, the hands will change the direction of the barrel and the body knows to release the stored energy.
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By flattening and torquing, are you referring to a "running start"?
Maybe.... I am not that familiar with what is deemed a running start. I read what Tweks referred it as in his ebook and from his description and the pics of the roller coaster lol it would probably be safe to say that.
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OK, I think I get what you mean by the hands being the trigger now. I'm not sure if I agree or disagree; I truly don't know enough to have an opinion on this. It wasn't what I originally thought you meant though.
I'm assuming you've seen that Donaldson MLB Network piece where he dissects his swing. I think you disagree with his view on the role of the hands, right? Again, not trying to prove you wrong or anything. I truly am just trying to learn where everybody's coming from.
I am assuming that you are referring to how he says that he doesn't think of his hands........ I do not necessarily disagree with that but bringing the barrel to the ball is the thought process. No matter what anyone believes the hands are responsible for turning the bat at least 90 degrees of the 180 degree arc. What I have been referring to is how he states that he gets into his hip but he never mentions anything about firing his hip (if I remember correctly been a while since I have watched the video). Regardless how he believes he gets his initial bat speed (he sates his shoulders which I believe he is talking about using his core to speed up his shoulders) the hip stays loaded until his hands decide to release the barrel or turn it that 90 degrees.
IMO the best way to see that the hands trigger the hip firing is on off speed pitches when they get the front foot down early. They stay loaded in the hip until the hands tell it to fire (reactive). I do not see how someone can sit on an off speed pitch and think fire the hips and then fire the hands it would be way to slow. I would like to see video of Donaldson sitting on an off speed pitch just like Griffey & Bonds were so good at.
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FiveFrameSwing
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I tell my hitters that the lead side gets to pulling as the rear side gets to throwing.
If you embrace how the lead side pulls, then you'll have the 'flattening' process as the barrel is 'worked/arc'd/orbited'.
If you embrace how the lead side pulls, then you'll have the 'flattening' process as the barrel is 'worked/arc'd/orbited'.
The hands absolutely must not fire before the hips. Fiveframe I think you agree with this. The turning of the barrel is more of an arms action. Focusing on any barrel turning with the hands is what will slow down the swing bigtime. Doing that is a mistake and will get the hitter beat with good pitching every time they face it.
