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Jun 12, 2017
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I would appreciate anyones thoughts on if they think this would work. I am trying to explain scap loading and the feel of the top hand pulling back on the handle to my dd. I was thinking a good way for her to get the feel was having her draw her bow and hold it. Then having her relax her arm and the feeling she's left with near her shoulder blade is what she should be feeling. She'll be 10 in a couple of months so looking for a creative way to isolate the feeling for her. Thanks in advanced.
 
Apr 16, 2013
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The bow string is exactly how I described it to my DD. Also, "walking away" from the hands as you stride forward, leaving the bat behind the body, much like pulling a bow string. The hands and scap should be relaxed until you start moving forward. They'll "pull back and resist" being released until the body just can't take it anymore. The hips should fire and shortly after everything upstream follows.

The biggest thing that worked for my DD was video. I video'd her and then showed her what she was doing, right next to a gif or video of what we wanted. Cabrera and Pujols were my most used gifs. Make sure you can do slowmotion with whatever you use. I always used Adobe Premiere, but that's a pretty expensive setup. Now I use wondershare fimora which is free. You just have to spend money to "output" the edited video. You can still look at your own video frame by frame within the program and easily see what's going on.
 

rdbass

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Jun 5, 2010
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The scap never loads. The action of the scap, and the action of the hip and lower back is to PULL BACK so as to LOAD THE LEG. Not the scap. The scap is to load the rear leg. Think of wring a rag.
the feel of the top hand pulling back
and around.
Think of elbowing someone standing behind you not beside you.
 
May 12, 2016
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This is all so confusing.. lol. The scap never loads? Load the scap, pinch the scap etc .. I thought the scap never unloaded..:).
 
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I wonder if rd is being overly specific though. ;) Yes, you load the hips, but there's also an action of pulling the hands back (or more specifically that right hand if you're a righty), just like you're pulling back to throw a big punch. The scap will naturally be a part of that pull. If it's not the scap doing the part of the "hands walking away" then it's the arms, and that's not good if your arms are letting the bat drift away from the body.
 
Jun 12, 2017
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Thanks for the responses. I may have poorly worded my question. I understand the scap load as the upper body effort to resist the lower body/hip rotation. I was thinking the bow could help her feel the muscles activated during this.
I will try wringing a rag with her and see if she can get it. Thanks
 

rdbass

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Jun 5, 2010
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RD, how do you define a "loaded scap?"

When you load the scap you must unload the scap which is a PUSH type swing......
How do you define a 'loaded scap'. I don't believe the scap gets loaded.

I should have just left it alone.....
I am trying to explain scap loading and the feel of the top hand pulling back on the handle to my dd
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Isn't loading/pinching scap the process of compressing your shoulder blade towards your spine? I thought this was all part of the loading process? If you take hands and arms out of the equation and just focus on loading your scap.. naturally your hands and arms will move as well. Just like A's dad said.. "the feel was having her draw her bow and hold it". I thought that was an excellent way to explain it since you use those muscles to draw a bow, not your hands or your arms.
 

rdbass

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"the feel was having her draw her bow and hold it"
If that helps with the 'feel' then OK.
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I'm more of 'around'. Cue I used was 'elbowing someone standing behind you. Not standing beside you.
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I thought that was an excellent way to explain it since you use those muscles to draw a bow, not your hands or your arms.
How can you draw a bow and not use your arms and hands. I know you don't want to use your hands to turn the barrel but, how is that even possible.
 
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