Feedback on 12yr old

Shawn said:

This is to give an idea of the slop and weight shifting after toe touch, losing the coil and not turning right away.

The first clip he is maintaining coil until the back leg/hip starts to turn and the body/hip is still coiled as the body begins to turn. In your DD case she is still shifting after toe touch. The ML hitter isn't shifting the body forward after toe touch, any shifting happens prior to toe touch. So she really isn't staying back, still coiled.

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teamM said:

Got this today. Does it look any better? https://youtu.be/3YcTAV_IcYk

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CoachJD said:

Is a lot of what you're describing here and showing in the images the all back/all forward problem (I think I see her doing that, though I've definitely seen worse)?

In other words, is "maintaining coil" another way to describe that "separation" you want to have between upper/lower half on the stride?

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Shawn said:

There is nothing you can do with the upperbody that will cause the lowerbody to work correctly. You can view the swing as top down. In the top down model there is less of a chance for mistakes made in the sequence. Meaning the ground up model doesn't have enough emphasis on the upperbody. In the top down model for instance you have to turn the back leg/hips right now to the command of the upperbody. Although this doesn't guarantee that will happen correctly.

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DRDRODD said:

Shawn can you elaborate some? I think I know what you are saying but not totally sure. I for one believe that if someone loads correctly and swing "top down" things will be incorrect order.

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Shawn said:

Way back when, I learned that working from the ground up can create many, many problems. So I experimented with top down and making the body a slave to the upperbody. Thinking about the end result, what you want in the upperbody had a great result.

Mankin was the first one I heard that stated if you focus on rearward portion of the swing the hips would turn to support the rearward force. He actually said first on the internet (after I learned this myself) that you can focus on the upperbody and the body would support the upperbody.

So the top down model isn't nothing new.

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