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Sep 29, 2008
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Great! Thanks for the excellent input and analysis. Hope others find it helpful for their DD. We'll see how much we can communicate from the thread. Change and adjustments are tough when that ball is flying at you at 55 -65 mph But we'll work together to see what we can do.
 
May 3, 2014
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Axis is the rear forearm - rear leg brings it into the ball. Double pendulum.

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Jun 17, 2009
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Portland, OR
Axis is the rear forearm - rear leg brings it into the ball. Double pendulum.

T2Pal3.gif

The initial axis is the lower rear back.

The axis of rotation will travel forward. It will travel up the 'scip' (i.e., the twisted backside between the rear hip and rear scap), through (not from, but through) the rear shoulder, around the rear forearm and around the wrists.

This is all part of the whipping process.
 
Jun 17, 2009
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In another thread a while back there was a question about what constitutes a 'long swing'.

An alternative way to describe a 'long swing' is by the axis of rotation.

An example of a 'short swing' could be described as someone that has the initial axis of rotation being about their lower rear back, and has the axis of rotation flow forward during their swing ... for example, starting with the correct core usage to make the lower rear back the initial axis of rotation, flowing to working the handle (Gwynn type reference ... someone that understood that the bat head followed the actions to the handle) around their backside/scip/rear-hip-to-rear-shoulder, around their rear forearm, to around their hands. Someone that swings in this manner basically gets the barrel up to speed behind them ... they arc the barrel and make use of it.

An example of a 'long swing' could be thought to be someone with a loose or wide axis of rotation.

The axis of rotation matters.

Where the axis of rotation starts matters. Many unfortunately make their initial axis of rotation their shoulders. They fall far short of what they are capable of.
 
Sep 29, 2008
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Northeast Ohio
In another thread a while back there was a question about what constitutes a 'long swing'.

An alternative way to describe a 'long swing' is by the axis of rotation.

An example of a 'short swing' could be described as someone that has the initial axis of rotation being about their lower rear back, and has the axis of rotation flow forward during their swing ... for example, starting with the correct core usage to make the lower rear back the initial axis of rotation, flowing to working the handle (Gwynn type reference ... someone that understood that the bat head followed the actions to the handle) around their backside/scip/rear-hip-to-rear-shoulder, around their rear forearm, to around their hands. Someone that swings in this manner basically gets the barrel up to speed behind them ... they arc the barrel and make use of it.

An example of a 'long swing' could be thought to be someone with a loose or wide axis of rotation.

The axis of rotation matters.

Where the axis of rotation starts matters. Many unfortunately make their initial axis of rotation their shoulders. They fall far short of what they are capable of.

Outstanding! I've never heard that type of explanation. Very helpful. THANKS!
 
Jan 6, 2009
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Chehalis, Wa
In another thread a while back there was a question about what constitutes a 'long swing'.

An alternative way to describe a 'long swing' is by the axis of rotation.

An example of a 'short swing' could be described as someone that has the initial axis of rotation being about their lower rear back, and has the axis of rotation flow forward during their swing ... for example, starting with the correct core usage to make the lower rear back the initial axis of rotation, flowing to working the handle (Gwynn type reference ... someone that understood that the bat head followed the actions to the handle) around their backside/scip/rear-hip-to-rear-shoulder, around their rear forearm, to around their hands. Someone that swings in this manner basically gets the barrel up to speed behind them ... they arc the barrel and make use of it.

An example of a 'long swing' could be thought to be someone with a loose or wide axis of rotation.

The axis of rotation matters.

Where the axis of rotation starts matters. Many unfortunately make their initial axis of rotation their shoulders. They fall far short of what they are capable of.

I just look at the axis as the back hip and hands.
 
May 3, 2014
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In another thread a while back there was a question about what constitutes a 'long swing'.

An alternative way to describe a 'long swing' is by the axis of rotation.

An example of a 'short swing' could be described as someone that has the initial axis of rotation being about their lower rear back, and has the axis of rotation flow forward during their swing ... for example, starting with the correct core usage to make the lower rear back the initial axis of rotation, flowing to working the handle (Gwynn type reference ... someone that understood that the bat head followed the actions to the handle) around their backside/scip/rear-hip-to-rear-shoulder, around their rear forearm, to around their hands. Someone that swings in this manner basically gets the barrel up to speed behind them ... they arc the barrel and make use of it.

An example of a 'long swing' could be thought to be someone with a loose or wide axis of rotation.

The axis of rotation matters.

Where the axis of rotation starts matters. Many unfortunately make their initial axis of rotation their shoulders. They fall far short of what they are capable of.

Stop steering people off into your weeds. It's the hands. It always has been.
 

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