What is weight shift?

pattar said:

If your DD's swing looks like Roberto Clemente's I would say leave her alone

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corlay said:

Question on this gif:
If the batter's separation at FBC (max load at toe touch) is this great,
with lead arm extended so far rearward,
can you still turn the barrel effectively? and not have a bat drag type swing?

I ask, because this looks a bit like my 14U DD;
and I'm just getting ready to drill this out of her a bit.
With arms/hands extended so far rearward,
it just doesn't seem like turning the barrel at swing initiation (vs. dropping barrel and dragging bat forward)
would be very natural.

Advice? Clarification?

Thank you.

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corlay said:

Ha! point taken...

But what i was trying to get at is,
If the batter literally drives her hands rearward during FBC (like Clemente)
I think it puts the body in a weak position to turn the barrel, rearward behind the body.
Do you agree?

Further point is, I guess, that teaching "separation" in the sequence can be taken too far?

Common credo is "stride away from the hands".
Meaning the hands don't drift forward with the body during FBC,
but should they be driven rearward in space, to maximize "separation"?
I'm not so sure about that...

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pattar said:

Look at the before and after gifs of the top hitter. Read the discussion that goes along with it as the instructor (mudvine) talks a bit about
the changes made.

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corlay said:

thanks for the link, but i do not have access

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corlay said:

Ha! point taken...

But what i was trying to get at is,
If the batter literally drives her hands rearward during FBC (like Clemente)
I think it puts the body in a weak position to turn the barrel, rearward behind the body.
Do you agree?

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Further point is, I guess, that teaching "separation" in the sequence can be taken too far?

Common credo is "stride away from the hands".
Meaning the hands don't drift forward with the body during FBC,
but should they be driven rearward in space, to maximize "separation"?
I'm not so sure about that...

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Quote Originally Posted by corlay View Post
Ha! point taken...

But what i was trying to get at is,
If the batter literally drives her hands rearward during FBC (like Clemente)
I think it puts the body in a weak position to turn the barrel, rearward behind the body.
Do you agree?

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Eric F said:

More thoughts on the "shift" and "transfer" topic...

It seems like the general consensus at BBD is that "transfer" is associated with COM movement, and "shift" is associated with COP movement. In an effort to keep things more consistent in my own dumb brain, and for those who post/read in both places, it makes sense to be agreement with how those words are used by others describing the same actions. This also aligns with phrases like "shift and swing" and "the swing causes the shift" which is more about COP movement than COM movement. As I've said before, understanding the difference between COM movement and COP movement is more important than the labels they are given.

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Shawn said:

Wouldn't it be the other way around?

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