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rdbass

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Picked this from another thread, FFS posted the gif, looks like a ideal handset to get the barrel through on something inside
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Be careful on teaching/working/practicing on positions. Such as lag and radial deviation. These are pass throw position during the sequence of hitting and not something I would be working on.
Also ideal pass throw position on any pitch for that matter.
 
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Jun 17, 2009
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12191-looking-feedback-screenshot_2017-09-03-15-31-03.jpg

Be careful on teaching/working/practicing on positions. Such as lag and radial deviation. These are pass throw position during the sequence of hitting and not something I would be working on.
Also ideal pass throw position on any pitch for that matter.

FYI ... I do agree that flow should be what is taught and that positions should be an outcome.

That said, the position you see here is quite common in good swings. Ted Williams had a related photo in his book on hitting.

Ted_Williams_Lag.jpg
 

rdbass

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FYI ... I do agree that flow should be what is taught and that positions should be an outcome.

That said, the position you see here is quite common in good swings. Ted Williams had a related photo in his book on hitting.

Ted_Williams_Lag.jpg

Just so it's clear because it sounds like my post was incorrect or you're trying to make it come off as possible incorrect. You don't TEACH or PRACTICE getting a hitter into this position of lag. I said it was a pass throw position in the hitting sequence.
I also said this:
Also ideal pass throw position on any pitch for that matter.
 
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shaker1

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FWIW, we worked this into our workout this morning. Thought the gif would be a ideal way to show my DD where she should try and get TO and THROUGH on a inside pitch. Most of the kids on her team just drive something inside foul, even to the point of hits going in the dugout almost directly behind the batter.
 
Jun 17, 2009
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Just so it's clear because it sounds like my post was incorrect or you're trying to make it come off as possible incorrect. You don't TEACH or PRACTICE getting a hitter into this position of lag. I said it was a pass throw position in the hitting sequence.
I also said this:

The post you responded to pretty much stated that it was a pass through position (... i.e., "to get the barrel through"). I think we all agree.
 
Jun 17, 2009
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FWIW, we worked this into our workout this morning. Thought the gif would be a ideal way to show my DD where she should try and get TO and THROUGH on a inside pitch. Most of the kids on her team just drive something inside foul, even to the point of hits going in the dugout almost directly behind the batter.

Yes, the swing is "inside-to-outside" in that regard.
 
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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned how far back the tee is. You always want get around quicker on an inside pitch and let an outside pitch travel, right? If that's true, then move the tee out a few inches (maybe even a foot) and see if that doesn't help with getting the barrel turned in time. Of course, most of what everyone else has said here is useful stuff, but if you move the tee toward the pitcher you might find that it's that much easier to do what they're suggesting.

DD's hitting coach says never change your swing for inside, outside, high, low, or any other kind of pitch. He just says if it's inside get around on it quicker, outside let it travel, always throw the barrel at the ball (not the hands or the knob because you don't hit the ball with those unless you want a broken finger). Make your top hand do the work.


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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned how far back the tee is. You always want get around quicker on an inside pitch and let an outside pitch travel, right? If that's true, then move the tee out a few inches (maybe even a foot) and see if that doesn't help with getting the barrel turned in time. Of course, most of what everyone else has said here is useful stuff, but if you move the tee toward the pitcher you might find that it's that much easier to do what they're suggesting.

DD's hitting coach says never change your swing for inside, outside, high, low, or any other kind of pitch. He just says if it's inside get around on it quicker, outside let it travel, always throw the barrel at the ball (not the hands or the knob because you don't hit the ball with those unless you want a broken finger). Make your top hand do the work.

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I think when learning to swing a bat. Your hands are the start and finish of your swing. If you get the beginning of your sequence correct, and have the proper intent in mind, the hands will aid you the rest of the way . Someone wrote on here " the body supports the hands " when swinging a bat.To me that statement goes a long long way in learning the sequence of a good swing. Every good MLB player has some kinda hand movement , tick, pump , grip pressure change when they are preparing to face a pitch. The hands are the center of the swing universe literally and figuratively. Learn about "educated hands "and loading protocol and your DD will be on her way. Everything and I do mean everything works off the hands! Just my 2 sense.
 
Mar 1, 2016
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I think when learning to swing a bat. Your hands are the start and finish of your swing. If you get the beginning of your sequence correct, and have the proper intent in mind, the hands will aid you the rest of the way . Someone wrote on here " the body supports the hands " when swinging a bat.To me that statement goes a long long way in learning the sequence of a good swing. Every good MLB player has some kinda hand movement , tick, pump , grip pressure change when they are preparing to face a pitch. The hands are the center of the swing universe literally and figuratively. Learn about "educated hands "and loading protocol and your DD will be on her way. Everything and I do mean everything works off the hands! Just my 2 sense.

Your response to my response is confusing. Not even on topic. Maybe you meant to reply to the OP?


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[...]move the tee out a few inches (maybe even a foot) and see if that doesn't help with getting the barrel turned in time. [...]

DD's hitting coach says never change your swing for inside, outside, high, low, or any other kind of pitch. He just says [...] always throw the barrel at the ball (not the hands or the knob because you don't hit the ball with those unless you want a broken finger). Make your top hand do the work.

Your response to my response is confusing. Not even on topic. Maybe you meant to reply to the OP?

TexAg - I think his post was in response to the bolded text above, he just expanded (and maybe expounded?) on how a hitter uses (or should use?) their hands.
 

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