Timing and stuff

_MIA_ · Jul 25, 2017

ian said:
No one can produce MLB video showing the bat moving towards the ball with the front foot in the air, so the answer is no!

If Adair said swing starts at heel plant it would be closer to the truth. Before heel plant its just looking thinking deciding.

Just out of curiousity, why do you insist on defining the swing purely based upon the bat movement. Is it because the rules of the game use that action to define a strike?
I am not picking a fight, I am genuinely curious as to your thinking here.

If I told you to swing the bat as best you could wouldn't you need to do all of the upstream stuff correctly, before the barrel is moving towards the ball, in order to comply with my wish?
To me a swing is an action with the intent of hitting the ball as hard and as far as possible.

Spartans21 · Jul 25, 2017

ian said:
No one can produce MLB video showing the bat moving towards the ball with the front foot in the air, so the answer is no!

If Adair said swing starts at heel plant it would be closer to the truth. Before heel plant its just looking thinking deciding.

ian · Jul 25, 2017

pattar said:
Just out of curiousity, why do you insist on defining the swing purely based upon the bat movement. Is it because of the rules of the game use that action to define a strike?
I am not picking a fight, I am genuinely curious as to your thinking here.

If I told you to swing the bat as best you could wouldn't you need to do all of the upstream stuff correctly, before the barrel is moving towards the ball, in order to comply with my wish?
To me a swing is an action with the intent of hitting the ball as hard and as far as possible.

The rules of the game play in my thinking. The word 'swing' has a meaning and that also plays a part in my thinking. Makes perfect sense right?

Why are you saying upsteam stuff doesnt matter? Thems fightin' words!

Greenmonsters · Jul 25, 2017

As off as he may be, Adair's description of the swing is far better than any ballplayer's published description of the physics of the swing. And he initially published this work in 1990, long before the technology that DFPers use to micro scrutinize swings existed!

_MIA_ · Jul 25, 2017

ian said:
Why are you saying upsteam stuff doesnt matter? Thems fightin' words!

Eh? Never said that..although the "wouldn't you need" part may have been a bit awkward grammar. I was trying to say the opposite actually...

Buttermaker · Jul 25, 2017

ian said:
No one can produce MLB video showing the bat moving towards the ball with the front foot in the air, so the answer is no!

If Adair said swing starts at heel plant it would be closer to the truth. Before heel plant its just looking thinking deciding.

When is towards the ball?

_MIA_ · Jul 25, 2017

Buttermaker said:
When is towards the ball?

I may be a bit slow in this realization but I think Ian is trolling..

ian · Jul 25, 2017

Spartans21 said:

Great gif of Barry taking the slack out. keep em coming.

ian · Jul 25, 2017

pattar said:
Eh? Never said that..although the "wouldn't you need" part may have been a bit awkward grammar. I was trying to say the opposite actually...

Thats right you were impling I believe the upstream stuff doesnt matter. yep you're a troll

ian · Jul 25, 2017

Buttermaker said:
When is towards the ball?

When the batter swings.

edit when the batter starts the swinging motion of the bat.

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