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Oct 7, 2014
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Need help on my daughters swing
She's played A ball but took a year off due to various injuries.
She playing again but having problems against top pichers cause she has a "hitch" in her swing. She loads up on the swing and is moving her hands back and rotating her upper body forward.
She's small but hits with power by loading up which I dont it is part of her game. The coaches (high school and travel team) love it but i dont. They both have different coaching on swing techniques.

What do you the experts think?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y7P2TDhvBQ4

I know it a bad quality video but my daughter's friend took it and ny daughter hates being on video.

Thanks for any feedback and tips.
 
May 3, 2014
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Here are my Friday morning thoughts.

Does the tee way out front lead to a swing with a long radius or does a swing with a long radius require the tee that far out front?

Her swing has a front leg axis which is a long radius for the bat. Which requires hitting the ball out front to have a reasonable chance to make good contact.

This is the reason you see pro hitters with what looks like incredible lag in their swing. The barrel has a much shorter path to the ball due to using the rear leg as an axis point.

I made these clips (inspired by Noontime's clip of Posey below) to show my hitters how they can think of the swing.

This is Noon's clip of Posey -
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I wanted a rear view
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And this is Aaron Judge
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The point of these clips is to show the rear leg as the swing axis. The barrel has a much shorter path and due to this can have a more diagonal path. Using the front leg as an axis will create a downward plunging hand and barrel path.

All rage is now on launch angle. Changing the swing radius to the rear leg will increase the LA automatically. Look at Justin Turner and Jose Bautista as pros who made the change even if they didn't understand it.
 
Oct 7, 2014
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Great

Any drills you recommend?

Im not too technical but understand your wonderful reoly

I try to get some more videos
 
Jul 7, 2015
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I see three things in her swing 1. She is striding backwards with the front foot. At best there is no stride just a slight turn and plant of the front foot no spin. 2. The hands moving back is not a problem but the bat shouldn't wrap around her head like that, should be a little more upright and not going past her back ear. Really hard to get back to the plate from that angle especially on the faster pitchers. 3. The bat looks really heavy or long but this can be from the excessive angle and torque caused by that angle. Stork drill and happy gilmore for striding, you holding a simple pole behind her to keep the bat from wrapping that far back or just a lot of tee work with feeling the new position you are trying to achieve. Tee work at the field always seem best for my daughter because see can see the results. Good luck!!
 
May 3, 2014
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Great

Any drills you recommend?

Im not too technical but understand your wonderful reoly

I try to get some more videos

I have been using a modified rear legged set up I stole from JSoriano (I know he is on Twitter and maybe here as well).

Set up to tee with the rear foot pretty much even with the tee.
Drop the front foot back behind you (as in towards the dugout) with little to no weight on the front foot (set up on toe)
The blue arrow is where I position the rear foot compared to this clip - I stole the screen shot as well.
nXUjh1.jpg


Apply great rotational pressure of the upper rear leg towards the pitcher (notice the hitters knee looks pinched in but this is not done with the knee). With everything above your rear leg you applying as much pressure against the rear leg rotation forward.

This should create a rear hip coil.

To swing get used to turning/rotating the rear leg forward (this will turn the pelvis). The swing should feel around the rear leg. With the deep tee - the only way you can hit reasonably well is hitting around the rear leg.

Use this set up and learn to hit is most untechnical advice I can give to get started. Disclaimer - your daughter will probably hate it lol.
 
Oct 4, 2016
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Interesting stuff, never heard the rear leg vs front leg axis swing mechanics. I can now see the difference in swings, especially at the youth level where kids struggle with mechanics. Posey swing is a good example of the rear leg axis. Will give the 1 legged drill a try. Thanks,
 
Oct 7, 2014
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Are there any videos for the 1 legged drill?
My daughter would probably understand it more than from me.
 

tjintx

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May 27, 2012
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I have been using a modified rear legged set up I stole from JSoriano (I know he is on Twitter and maybe here as well).

Set up to tee with the rear foot pretty much even with the tee.
Drop the front foot back behind you (as in towards the dugout) with little to no weight on the front foot (set up on toe)
The blue arrow is where I position the rear foot compared to this clip - I stole the screen shot as well.
nXUjh1.jpg


Apply great rotational pressure of the upper rear leg towards the pitcher (notice the hitters knee looks pinched in but this is not done with the knee). With everything above your rear leg you applying as much pressure against the rear leg rotation forward.

This should create a rear hip coil.

To swing get used to turning/rotating the rear leg forward (this will turn the pelvis). The swing should feel around the rear leg. With the deep tee - the only way you can hit reasonably well is hitting around the rear leg.

Use this set up and learn to hit is most untechnical advice I can give to get started. Disclaimer - your daughter will probably hate it lol.

Not to distract or confuse anyone but for clarification. Is it safe to say the 1st step in training the rear leg is to get the front leg out of the way(IE. pelvis open)?
 

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