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Jun 17, 2009
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Here is a scap that starts "pinched" in the setup. What do you think about the term scap circling?

Are you of the opinion that the raised elbow/humerous is caused by pinching the rear scap?

No........

Good, we agree on this.

IMO you are guessing about starting with a “pinched” rear scap in the setup above. I welcome evidence to the contrary.
 
Jun 17, 2009
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Portland, OR
Not following the puppy throwing reference. I guess what I consider a pinched scap must be different.....

Perhaps substitute "barrel" or "bat head" for "puppy".

I suspect we are thinking of something different.

Pinching and holding/freezing the rear scap in the 'setup' is, imo, out of sequence. The feel of the rear scap being pressured in towards the spin is something I want to take place dynamically, and later.
 
Jul 16, 2013
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That resistance is the rear leg trying to turn internally (internal rotation) while the hips are turning the opposite direction. The foot feels ER(external rotation/clock wise rotation) against the ground. Feels like 'wringing a rag'.

The feel of the rear scap being pressured in towards the spin is something I want to take place dynamically, and later.

When I think of scap use I like the terms "dynamic" AND "resistance". IMO this is a component of the timing mechanism as well. Timing without this "dynamic resistance" is hard to accomplish.
 
Jan 6, 2009
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Hey Shawn, Spartans and Bass have already described pretty well. My thoughts are the same. The scap pulls back into the spine using the back muscles (not shoulder or arm created). This takes the arms out the equation. Some hitters start pre pinched and some do it as they move out. Either way - this action is loading the rear leg. The rear hip pulls around the rear leg, the lower back and scap. This all happens to continually load the rear leg. The rear leg gets loaded by wanting to resist this rearward pressure. Jryan had a really nice video showing how continually pulling back around the rear leg actually gets you forward because the rear leg will react that way if the pull backs are correct and never release.

So your saying the pull back starts before pelvic loading? Just trying to better understand what you guys are saying.

The key piece to all of this not letting the scap/lower back/rear hip release it's "force" of pulling around the rear leg. The scap pressure drives down the length of the spine as the rear leg starts turn everything forward. What is hard to see and equally hard to get the feeling for is that the torso tilts via the rear hip joint as the scap pressure drives down the spine. This essentially creates the shoulder tilt and allows the shoulders to be bypassed.

Yes I believe there is a shoulder tilt. Not so sure I would call the shoulders as being bypassed.

So, I wouldn't describe it as scap loading either. If the scap unloads you push and use the arms and lose the ability to really use the bigger muscles without max effort of trying to use the bigger muscles. The swing is over in a snap. Players that start to feel this are amazed at the quickness and you can hear the difference off the bat as they really compress the ball.

Here is one of my hitters figuring out how to use her back to pull the scap into the spine. IMO - if you get the scap right the ability to use the lower back correctly is significantly increased. Watch how her lower back reacts when she engages the scap. Not only are the letters moving but watch the "22" at the bottom of the numbers.

I feel that of you get the lower back correctly that things will flow better. So your saying the scap is engaged first?
 
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