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May 3, 2014
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Losing the barrel as it gets too flat and into her shoulders. Keep the barrel in her hands. Don't let it flatten over her shoulders before she swings. This may help with the double loading she is doing. (leg kick and shoulder turning in - striding out and turning shoulders in even more and this is where she loses barrel)
 
Sep 29, 2014
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The biggest thing I am picking up is how far back she stays and the lack of any linear component. If that is what she was taught and would be to hard for her to change fine but I think she would do much better copying an elite swing, just focus on her back foot it is smashed into the ground bearing weight which if you just pick any top 10 hitters you want MLB or Fastpitch and right around contact you won't see any weight on the back foot and most will be off the ground sliding forward. The other thing that is puzzling to me is her stance at heel plant; it is almost right but she gets and stays too far back, actually the only linear component she has is back during stride which is great but it is almost an upper body lean backwards onto to rear leg, though she does stay inside her foot which is good. It might be interesting to see her from behind and see whether that is a complete lean back or it looks like she might be leaning over the plate a bit. Anyway the rear foot video you can check out yourself or our resident gif maker might have some file gif of swings again it won't matter which ones he picks they will almost all have rear foot moving forward. As for heel plat here are a couple stills you will also notice without walking away from hands and staying back she does not get as much separation as she should. To work a fix you might try a slightly bigger stride just 4 to 6 inches along with a que to stand up taller or straighter then show her the videos of elite hitter losing rear foot contact so she is not afraid to come forward a little, but also make sure she notices that as soon as the swing is done the hitters all fall back on that rear foot their weight is still back it's just not planted and attached to the ground. I know it might sound confusing just respond back with any questions

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Jan 6, 2009
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Chehalis, Wa
When I see a swing like this, I think they have very limited awareness of the torso. The torso is just being pushed around by leg/arms movement. I try to teach the torso as a limb to create more awareness. They know about the legs and arms, but awareness on the torso is very helpful. So I teach the torso as you would a limb.

Check out the amount of head movement backwards. The head is getting over the back hip joint. There is limited if any head movement forward after the load backwards. The head should remain somewhere close to over the front hip during the load and should remain over the front hip. You want an "attack posture" during the load of the torso.

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May 3, 2014
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When I see a swing like this, I think they have very limited awareness of the torso. The torso is just being pushed around by leg/arms movement. I try to teach the torso as a limb to create more awareness. They know about the legs and arms, but awareness on the torso is very helpful. So I teach the torso as you would a limb.

Check out the amount of head movement backwards. The head is getting over the back hip joint. There is limited if any head movement forward after the load backwards. The head should remain somewhere close to over the front hip during the load and should remain over the front hip. You want an "attack posture" during the load of the torso.

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Lack of barrel awareness. How do you train the torso/core without having an awareness of where the barrel is at all times (which is fancy way of saying hands)?. Realizing she is not aware of where she is placing the barrel (her whole pre swing movement is about losing the barrel in her shoulders) is the first step. Strip away some movement and let the body coordinate around the hands.
 
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When I see a swing like this, I think they have very limited awareness of the torso. The torso is just being pushed around by leg/arms movement. I try to teach the torso as a limb to create more awareness. They know about the legs and arms, but awareness on the torso is very helpful. So I teach the torso as you would a limb.

Check out the amount of head movement backwards. The head is getting over the back hip joint. There is limited if any head movement forward after the load backwards. The head should remain somewhere close to over the front hip during the load and should remain over the front hip. You want an "attack posture" during the load of the torso.

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Head movement in pictures...Blue is starting position using the front of the helmet/head as a reference, Green is the farthest point back before engaging hands or forward portion of the swing and red is contact.

I'm granting she is not typical and looks like a strong girl that might be able to get away with a few issues in her swing easier than most. My first thought was she does not have an elite looking swing but reminds me of someone...after taking a second look it's Barry Bonds he stayed back alot and was much more rotational, if you don't think adding the forward component makes sense for your DD (which most on here will dispute sound mechanics are sound mechanics it does not matter if you hit more HRs than anyone ever) you still need to fix the bat position which several of the guys have mentioned.

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Since I said she looks more like Bonds in basic approach lets look at where they don't match up bat position. Bonds was wicked quick and short, your DD has what we on here call Dropping the Barrel and Swinging Flat. Basically trying to flatten out the bat before you swing then swinging level. Here are two pics one of Bonds the other your DD, I've stopped them just a little after hands and shoulder start moving.

Notice how your DD bat is flat where Bonds is still upright the angle is different but I put the green line on Bond pic to show you where your DD bat is at this point and blue is where it should be. If rdbass has time or inclination he might make a gif or two but your can just google Bond swing and see what I mean about the difference in bat angle

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Jan 6, 2009
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Chehalis, Wa
Like Rdbass, I'm waiting on the poster. To many times a swing is posted and I don't think the information is put to any use,

The hands need some work, but how she is using the upperbody and lowerbdy is a major issue. I agree the end result is important, end gaining, although the torso is not used even remotely well.
 

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