Do you still use/recommend the whip hit?

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Apr 17, 2012
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I've been reluctant to say anything regarding the video that is posted above. We can all identify problems with that swing ( I Hope I'm not hurting anybody's feelings) It's out of sequence and disconnected, not to mention that there is NO whip in that swing. One of the problem with my dd's swing is it never really seems the barrell gets "released" for lack of a better word. By hope is that if she figures out how to whip the ball that she will get the feel of turning/whipping the barrell? It is not my intention to use the directions that come with the whip hit but to rather have her swing like a real bat
 
Jun 17, 2009
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This is just my opinion so take it for what its worth every swing I see here is upper body dominated, no lower half at all, what good does it do to teach hand path if the body dosent help power the swing. My instructions for the use of whip hit are pretty simple.

Hips and hands are loaded, Separation and drive to weight shift, hips lead, back hand turns, front elbow forward and up with front hand turning the barrel to contact. Letting the body or back side power the swing not the hands, the hands deliver the whip hit to the ball..... not power the swing

Despite a few different que words I really dont see why you would swing a whip hit any different than a bat. Here to me is why the whip hit is so important and can, given the correct instruction, make a difference in the swing. A regular bat has between 4 to 6 inches of sweet spot, a miss hit can still be a decent hit. With the whip hit, you have a sweet spot the size of a nickel. You have immediate feed back, whether you are around the ball pulling the front shoulder, rolling the back hand past contact, dumping the barrel. Used and instructed properly I believe it to be a beneficial aid to show correct hand path.

Tim

First, thank you for attempting to add clarity as to how you use the product. Much appreciated.

Regarding the 'bold' above, there are important differences between having a weight at the end of a rope and swinging a rigid object such as a bat. How the swing is initiated between the two objects can be quite different. The use of the bottom hand is one such area that I see big differences in.

If your only benefit is in hitting with a reduced sweet spot, then it would seem that there are other approaches that retain the feel of initiating the swing of a rigid object.
 
Oct 14, 2008
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I have tried other methods this is the one I prefer. To the original OP, I believe I have answered yours and FFS questions.
 
Aug 1, 2008
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Can anyone explain how to use it correctly I have one but I'm afraid to let my daughter use it because I don't want her to develop any more bad habits. She has a problem casting.


There is a guy named Dana Meggs that gives lessons out of flower mound, near dallas. Not sure how far you are from him
Excell hitting and pitching is his site or name.

Tell him Gerry mentioned him to you.



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Jun 23, 2013
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PacNw
There is no way the girl in the video swings like that with a real bat in her hands. In that sense, the Whip Hit does provide good feedback in that it shows how ridiculously contorted she has to get just to make contact with the ball. Hopefully she is using the video to fix her swing.
 
Jul 20, 2010
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I am 100% sincere when I state that there is a common, yet distorted belief, that drills alone will make hitters better.

A frequent request I receive from parents is to send them drills to fix their kid’s swing issues. They have a perception that their kid should be prescribed a drill much like a doctor would prescribe medication for an illness.

That isn’t how this works. A hitter’s mind needs to be actively engaged in the extraction of the desired benefit. A hitter with a healthy image of a good swing can often move more fluid, and athletically, than a hitter with an improper image of a healthy swing.

I get the same request...i.e., "Give me some drills."

My answer is the same, "The swing is a drill unto itself."

I really can't add anything of much value to the above...except when we do any kind of "drill" it is usually a walk up, in limited quantities..mostly for the generation of a "non static" FEEL, with the goal of moving very quickly back to a regular swing without the walk up portion.

Our "drills" are generally done with big motions / movements but all with swinging a bat. For example, perhaps an exaggerated tip and rip kind of thing.

If the hitter (Amy in AZ mentioned this in another thread), needs to learn to "sit" / stay in their legs we incorporate that into them by swinging a bat so they understand the "when" of sitting...otherwise they simply get good at "sitting" but no idea of how it is incorporated into an actual swing.

Shorter version: I want my kids to get good at swinging the bat as opposed to getting good at "drills".

Nice post Five.
 

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