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It's a very simple concept that is easy for those learning to understand. I think it is a lot better than what most girls are doing at the plate, and with the performance of today's bats- I'm sure there is/would be a lot of success. I wouldn't teach this way though

CycloneSoftball22 said:

Like I said , I know it isn't MLB worthy , but can this type of instruction be effective for the average player to be successful?

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I actually agree too this is very good at the very basics, I think I might start another thread I have been wanting to for a while with another instructional video instead of derailing this thread because the video is about 20 minutes and would probably generate a few comments if anyone has that kind of time but I think it does a very good job with most things...keep an eye out

iMlearning said:

It's a very simple concept that is easy for those learning to understand. I think it is a lot better than what most girls are doing at the plate, and with the performance of today's bats- I'm sure there is/would be a lot of success. I wouldn't teach this way though

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I guess this is what I am getting at. If a player could be very successful with this type of instruction , why wouldn't you teach it? Well , it isn't MLB or "high level pattern" worthy. But , does it have to be to help a player? I understand about the bats and smaller fields , but there aren't any huge changes coming any time soon , so wouldn't a HS or even college player be able to benefit? The lifespan of a players career is very small.

I guess I wouldn't teach it because I think I've seen that girls at a pretty young age can grasp the concept behind "show the pitcher your back pocket," just as well I think if you had a very short time to prepare a player, for example, a first time player that just made the JV team and you have 2 weeks until your first scrimage, it would be fine.
We had a girl on our 14u team last year that weighed a good 60lbs less than my DD. Now my DD is very strong and weight trains religiously. This little girl had a beautiful swing taught to her by her father, who is a very respected travel baseball coach in our area. You should have seen her hit. We couldn't believe how the ball flew off her bat. He said when we first talked about it that is was all because of her technique. I was sold! It has taken a lot of hard work though to get my DD up/close to her level. But now she's the one on fire

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iMlearning said:

I guess I wouldn't teach it because I think I've seen that girls at a pretty young age can grasp the concept behind "show the pitcher your back pocket," just as well I think if you had a very short time to prepare a player, for example, a first time player that just made the JV team and you have 2 weeks until your first scrimage.
We had a girl on our 14u team last year that weighed a good 60lbs less than my DD. Now my DD is very strong and weight trains religiously. This little girl had a beautiful swing taught to her by her father, who is a very respected travel baseball coach in our area. You should have seen her hit. We couldn't believe how the ball flew off her bat. He said when we first talked about it that is was all because of her technique. I was sold! It has taken a lot of hard work though to get my DD up/close to her level. But now she's the one on fire

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I also believe that technique is very important. I am just playing devils advocated here just a bit. Since there is no consensus (as evidenced by the debate/pissing contests around here) as to what the best mechanics really are , and the fact that there are many different swing types in the model swing thread , why is it assumed that hitters couldn't be successful with the mechanics being taught in that video (and others I have seen.) Every swing that is every posted on here gets nitpicked to death because they aren't Pujols , Bonds , Kemp , Ted Williams , etc. But it is really necessary for these fastpitch players to swing like those guys?

CycloneSoftball22 said:

I guess this is what I am getting at. If a player could be very successful with this type of instruction , why wouldn't you teach it? Well , it isn't MLB or "high level pattern" worthy. But , does it have to be to help a player? I understand about the bats and smaller fields , but there aren't any huge changes coming any time soon , so wouldn't a HS or even college player be able to benefit? The lifespan of a players career is very small.

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IMO, it takes approximately the same amount of time to teach someone the right way as it does the wrong/less right way.

I don't know where you are going with this thread??? It almost seems as if you looking for approval that its OK to give a player or your DD this video and say just watch this video and do what it says instead of spending the time to teach them how to do it right? If that's not the case - sorry. If it is the case - sorry, approval denied.

PS - wrote this while you were making your last post which cleared things up a little. So, I'm sorry.

PPS - But really, when it comes down to it, IMO, there is probably 95%+ agreement among the DFP experts with regard to what constitutes a high-level swing. Even w/ the remaining differences, you would end up with a more effecient and effective swing to follow anyone of those than to teach what's in the video. My opinion only.

Greenmonsters said:

IMO, it takes approximately the same amount of time to teach someone the right way as it does the wrong/less right way.

I don't know where you are going with this thread??? It almost seems as if you looking for approval that its OK to give a player or your DD this video and say just watch this video and do what it says instead of spending the time to teach them how to do it right? If that's not the case - sorry. If is the case - sorry, approval denied.

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First of all , I really don't care about your approval. Also , I don't teach my DD this way. But , I do know of several instructors locally and nationwide that do teach this way. My question is simply whether or not the kids that only have access to this could be fairly successful.

CycloneSoftball22 said:

First of all , I really don't care about your approval. Also , I don't teach my DD this way. But , I do know of several instructors locally and nationwide that do teach this way. My question is simply whether or not the kids that only have access to this could be fairly successful.

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Sure they could be successful, but with all the resources out there why not just teach them correctly the first time. Again I don't think is doing anything detrimental but take the comment I had. She is reaching back just a little as she comes forward if that is how she is actually swinging why not convey that in a video. All right might be tonight but I am going to start the thread with what I think is a comprehensive video about hitting and see what kind of comments it generates.

Finally you can not teach everything about a good swing in 2 minutes so it is probably not even fair to her she is really just demoing a product not giving a hitting lesson

Basically , for a local coach , such as myself , it is very difficult to teach something that is different than what these videos , former high level players , and D1 coaches teach. How do you convince a kid (and most of all their parents) that is successful at their particular level that they could be be even better? There is a former D1 coach locally that is very well liked by the community and has tons of hitting students. People will follow her instruction no matter what and she teaches pretty much the same as was shown in the video I posted