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Jun 17, 2009
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Theoretically yes. However the force the player is exerting on the bat, which is related to acceleration, during contact is much smaller than the
forces generated during the bat-ball collision and hence are not nearly as important and are typically ignored in an analysis. This is why conservation of linear
momentum is typically used when in reality if one included the player generated force momentum would change after contact.

Good for you.

It was a trick question.

Half expected you to go on a spiel about Force = Mass x Acceleration.
 

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Apr 14, 2017
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I would bet those girls you are referencing strike out swinging a ton and have difficulty adjusting to pitches. With that being said a long swing, if barreled up, will travel just as well as a hit by someone with a short swing.

IME bat speed is hard to see. When someone swing looks long to me they typically have slow hand speed and the time to impact is longer. With that being said, their bat speed might be comparable at impact with someone else that I consider to have a short/compact swing. BTW those observations have been verified with swing analyzers.

My advice is get young players focused on contact with good mechanics. Power will develop with those players as they age and the good mechanics they've developed will stick with them to make them complete hitters that can adjust to pitches.
 
Feb 27, 2019
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I would bet those girls you are referencing strike out swinging a ton and have difficulty adjusting to pitches. With that being said a long swing, if barreled up, will travel just as well as a hit by someone with a short swing.

IME bat speed is hard to see. When someone swing looks long to me they typically have slow hand speed and the time to impact is longer. With that being said, their bat speed might be comparable at impact with someone else that I consider to have a short/compact swing. BTW those observations have been verified with swing analyzers.

My advice is get young players focused on contact with good mechanics. Power will develop with those players as they age and the good mechanics they've developed will stick with them to make them complete hitters that can adjust to pitches.

I don't remember them striking out more than others, but If i had to describe their swing they both seem long and slow, almost effortless.
As for the other poster, I don't refer to them as slow or less fit during practices or anywhere else but here. Be better than yesterday is my mantra to them and that's who I want them competing with.
 
Jun 8, 2016
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long and slow, almost effortless.
Like this:

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:D

Anyway, what were you expecting to get out of the answers to your query? If somebody
said it was because they were heavier would that somehow justify the other kids on the team
(your DD perhaps?) not hitting as well? If you think the kids need work on their swing then
work with them.
 
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Sep 19, 2018
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All right, so I am going to come off as a ding dong. I've always understood when talking power, that bat velocity just after contact is just as important (more important) than prior to contact. There is a huge difference in pre and post bat velocity. Those that are stronger, or have better technique are able to apply more post contact force and will lose less velocity, thus generating more power. So you guys are saying that the actual force applied by the hitter (post contact) is so small that it is negligible in any calculations?
 
Apr 30, 2018
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Correct. The length of the bat combined with the length of the arms combined with the split second contact duration does not allow the hitter to add any more to the equation. At that point it is all about the mass and velocity of the bat.

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Jun 17, 2009
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Portland, OR
All right, so I am going to come off as a ding dong. I've always understood when talking power, that bat velocity just after contact is just as important (more important) than prior to contact. There is a huge difference in pre and post bat velocity. Those that are stronger, or have better technique are able to apply more post contact force and will lose less velocity, thus generating more power. So you guys are saying that the actual force applied by the hitter (post contact) is so small that it is negligible in any calculations?

Perhaps you may come off as a ding-dong ... but what is important, is that you don't let that define you. Instead, what should define you is the effort you make to gain a better understanding.
 

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