Stopping shoulder rotation in swing

clemenslee1 · Jan 31, 2019

FiveFrameSwing said:
The issue that the OP originally spoke of can be thought of as the avoidance of a catapulting action through impact.

As you watch the video below, keep in mind that a golfer posts 'up' whereas a softball/baseball hitter posts 'back' ... due to the difference of where the ball being impacted is located. Therefore to obtain a similar catapulting action described by this golfing instructor, the lead elbow would need to be pulled 'back' as the barrel is brought through impact.

Maybe when I get time I can get a video of her doing. When her front leg "Posts" up, that's when it seems her shoulder rotation stops, and since the arms bat etc. are still in motion it cause the rolling action I talked about.

FiveFrameSwing · Jan 31, 2019

clemenslee1 said:
Maybe when I get time I can get a video of her doing. When her front leg "Posts" up, that's when it seems her shoulder rotation stops, and since the arms bat etc. are still in motion it cause the rolling action I talked about.

A video would help ... but your description here is fairly vivid. Understand the video immediately following the video you replied to.

Rolling Hard · Jan 31, 2019

FiveFrameSwing said:
The issue that the OP originally spoke of can be thought of as the avoidance of a catapulting action through impact.

As you watch the video below, keep in mind that a golfer posts 'up' whereas a softball/baseball hitter posts 'back' ... due to the difference of where the ball being impacted is located. Therefore to obtain a similar catapulting action described by this golfing instructor, the lead elbow would need to be pulled 'back' as the barrel is brought through impact.

Off to the driving range. Thanks

Rolling Hard · Jan 31, 2019

FiveFrameSwing said:
Be specific. There are various segments in a swing that 'resist' and then 'release', giving an action that could be roughly described as a 'snap'. What "3 distinctive snaps" are you speaking of?

Guess it would be hips/ hands / shoulders? probably in that order? But the hands might jump around in the order depending on pitch (was the batter fooled) and hitters style. I am not the expert but appreciate the conversation.

Jcuevas · Jan 31, 2019

Oh man, I thought we were just talking about where she is finishing. My bad. So would this swing be considered a merry-go-round vs ferris wheel? Is it causing "arm bar" or casting? And yes Griffey arm bars...

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FiveFrameSwing · Jan 31, 2019

Jcuevas said:
Oh man, I thought we were just talking about where she is finishing. My bad. So would this swing be considered a merry-go-round vs ferris wheel? Is it causing "arm bar" or casting? And yes Griffey arm bars...

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Post a swing clip of Ken Griffey arm barring in a swing.

Jcuevas · Jan 31, 2019

FiveFrameSwing said:
Post a swing clip of Ken Griffey arm barring in a swing.

Here we go...should I say 'slight arm bar'? The reason I bring up Griffey is because most can't come back from this position. They tend to pull the front shoulder in a merry-go-round fashion.

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FiveFrameSwing · Jan 31, 2019

Jcuevas said:
Here we go...should I say 'slight arm bar'? The reason I bring up Griffey is because most can't come back from this position. They tend to pull the front shoulder in a merry-go-round fashion.

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A slight arm bar? As in being slightly pregnant? You either have an arm bar or you don't ... and the above clips don't represent an arm bar.

Help me understand the issue you are trying to describe. I ask, because the torso-engine pulls on the lead shoulder ... I want that in my hitters.

Regardless of the length of the lead arm, I don't want the shoulders actively trying to pull to initiate the swing ... I want the shoulders to become pulled ... and many hitters that have the lead arm longer (not barred) tend to know to have their shoulder resist the initial rotation being inspired by their torso. In your clip above you can see that Griffey's hands/arms lagged his hip/torso-engine.

Jcuevas · Jan 31, 2019

FiveFrameSwing said:
A slight arm bar? As in being slightly pregnant? You either have an arm bar or you don't ... and the above clips don't represent an arm bar.

Help me understand the issue you are trying to describe. I ask, because the torso-engine pulls on the lead shoulder ... I want that in my hitters.

Regardless of the length of the lead arm, I don't want the shoulders actively trying to pull to initiate the swing ... I want the shoulders to become pulled ... and many hitters that have the lead arm longer (not barred) tend to know to have their shoulder resist the initial rotation being inspired by their torso. In your clip above you can see that Griffey's hands/arms lagged his hip/torso-engine.

OP said DD has a tendency to just open shoulders...What is causing her "to just open up"? Is it arm bar? Hand placement? I agree with your videos on how it should be done. Theres obviously a flaw. We can go back n forth with what, how, why, between us, but it isn't helping anything. I know Griffeys swing and I understand it's not an arm bar but that's the closest I'll get to an arm bar or 'slight'. So if me calling that an arm bar bothers you, lol. And before you go on a rant about "but it's not an arm bar' just know that it's ok.

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_MIA_ · Jan 31, 2019

FiveFrameSwing said:
Post a swing clip of Ken Griffey arm barring in a swing.

This looks like arm-bar to me...As I have
said before, IMO arm-barring isn't necessarily "life-threatening" in a swing

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