Wrist roll- what to do?

FiveFrameSwing · Jul 27, 2018

Shawn said:
I think it's time for your bottle, Oh no someone doesn't agree with you.

I see, so when your nonsense is exposed you claim the other person needs a bottle.

How about a demo of this "extend, and then extend again"? Can you highlight a GIF with both extensions and describe what is being done to realize the two extension components of your swing model?

Work=wins · Jul 27, 2018

To the original poster : rolling wrists is early usually a weight transfer thing. Do walk ups, storks or step backs to have your players feel their transfer of weight. Make sure their hands 'get loaded' and don't load prematurely and the rollovers should decease.

Shawn · Jul 27, 2018

Enough said.

Breezy1 · Jul 27, 2018

obbay said:
I relocated this post as it was supposed to go here in the first place.

U18 team and some of the players have a recurring issue with wrist roll. i know I've heard of some but can't remember what the best drills are for this. Reverse top hand? one handed swings bottom hand only?
thanks

See Joey Vottos on deck short term muscle memory routine...Do that as a drill ..For one

Breezy1 · Jul 27, 2018

FiveFrameSwing said:
Without video ... I'll make a guess and suggest that the issue is not one of wrist roll.

A large percentage of those that have complained about such an issue were resolved simply by learning how to use the lead arm within a healthy torso/hip main engine.

This is exactly right. I say work the elbow to the mouth . If the lead elbow works up it wont work out! Elbow working out is root cause of roll over

Breezy1 · Jul 27, 2018

FiveFrameSwing said:
Here's the rub Shawn ... 100% of the people that have come to me with an issue of premature wrist rollover did NOT have a problem the wrists rolling over prematurely.

Let's see these issues of people with premature wrist rollover .... chances are good that the issue is something different than premature wrist rollover.But hey ... recommend a short follow through and hold the follow through ... pretty much sounds like you are recommending not allowing pronation of the top hand/forearm into extension ... which is a bad idea.

Then again, recommend extending and then extending again ... pretty much the same thing ... which not tell the kid to PUSH palm-up to extension?

You studied Yeager ... you should know this area of the swing better.

In bold is correct

Focusing on palm up tends to get the top hand /wrist into TO MUCH of a palm up position also.

Focus on lead arm mechanics and working the triangle together.

The key is lead arm mechanics!

If the elbow flys out or starts the swing by going to the dug out, that the cause of roll over and creates a swipe through the zone and not a swing that drives through the ball! A swipe that hits lots of GBs

Breezy1 · Jul 27, 2018

FiveFrameSwing said:
I see, so when your nonsense is exposed you claim the other person needs a bottle.

How about a demo of this "extend, and then extend again"? Can you highlight a GIF with both extensions and describe what is being done to realize the two extension components of your swing model?

Maybe he means stop at contact and then track the extension. Not sure how you could extend and the extend again.

FiveFrameSwing · Jul 27, 2018

Shawn said:
Enough said.

C'mon, you know better than that. The pitch is high and inside. Try again.

Challenge remains for all ... let's see those swings with a 'wrist rollover' issue. Odds are high that the issue is induced by poor mechanics elsewhere in the swing and can be addressed without ever instructing a kid to force a palm-up orientation ... which is poor instruction.

Shawn · Jul 27, 2018

You more then likely are dealing with swing plane issues that are causing the wrists to roll. The lead arm for example might be completely out of the plane of the shoulders, the lead arm could be finishing down. Lead arm work might help therefor, but it might take more work then just a simple correction.

FiveFrameSwing · Jul 27, 2018

Shawn said:
You more then likely are dealing with swing plane issues that are causing the wrists to roll. The lead arm for example might be completely out of the plane of the shoulders, the lead arm could be finishing down. Lead arm work might help therefor, but it might take more work then just a simple correction.

That is one of the most common issues I see when given a hitter that truly does have a roll-over issue. Fix the lead arm action and you'll never have to mention anything about the hands rolling over prematurely.

Now ... it is also the case that the top hand wrist should follow a release path of ulnar deviation into and through impact ... and that will lead to a roll over as the top hand wrist reaches the range of motion limit of ulnar deviation. It's part of what I refer to as "educated hands".

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