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    Quote Originally Posted by flipper14 View Post

    With the younger kids I wrestle with long-term mechanics vs. short term in-game success. I feel like I could bring a 10U or 12U kid in for a lesson and just throw front toss and live pitch to her for an hour and she's going to hit better in games, but am I helping her develop a "top-level" swing long term in doing so. I wrestle with that often. Parents aren't paying me to be a BP pitcher, or at least I don't think they should be.

    Great point. And goes directly into the "instant gratification" that parents want (or think they are paying for) vs understanding that the whole process is a journey. It cracks me up watching parents run from instructor to instructor chasing that "quick fix". If more people would understand it's about building trust and adding what a player can handle in the steps they can process and understand and then execute they will be better off long term than trying to make 1000 changes looking for the "fix". Know the absolutes of a great swing. Work toward a goal. Celebrate the successes along the way. Even this forum can be guilty of "chasing perfection" and if you don't know how to step back and take a little step at a time you can get very overwhelmed.

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    I wanted to add to this thread and bump it. I was supposed to have surgery last Friday but that changed and so, today, and that changed and now Thursday. My players found out that I had not had surgery yet and so, the phone "lit up" at they now say with many of them wanting one more lesson. I am so proud of my kids. Mudrunner, that would include your dd as well. It was hot today and I started at 3. I ran two at a time through there until 6:30 and I was soaking wet. At one point, one of the girls said that it was not fair that I would have surgery before their last tournament and then tryouts. I asked her how hot it was. She said, "Coach, I'm not going to lie. It is hot." I told her, "Yup, and you don't need me. You've been out here for an hour hitting with it being this hot. With that work ethic, you'll do just fine." An observation that I wanted to share is that so many "wanna be." IMO, the quickest way to failure is to be a wanna be. How about being a be? I sent a text to one young lady after she left to make sure she got home ok. She worked so hard and I bet she had 200 swings in slightly over an hour. IMO, she is D-I all the way with great speed, exceptional glove and technique in the OF and an above average arm. One of my girls had a career in Colorado last week. She ended play with grand slam and another home run in the same game. She hit right at .680 in the tournament. Tonight, she hit for an hour and a half. Again, I am so proud of them. They are working at being a "be" and not a "wanna be."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonball View Post
    I wanted to add to this thread and bump it. I was supposed to have surgery last Friday but that changed and so, today, and that changed and now Thursday. My players found out that I had not had surgery yet and so, the phone "lit up" at they now say with many of them wanting one more lesson. I am so proud of my kids. Mudrunner, that would include your dd as well. It was hot today and I started at 3. I ran two at a time through there until 6:30 and I was soaking wet. At one point, one of the girls said that it was not fair that I would have surgery before their last tournament and then tryouts. I asked her how hot it was. She said, "Coach, I'm not going to lie. It is hot." I told her, "Yup, and you don't need me. You've been out here for an hour hitting with it being this hot. With that work ethic, you'll do just fine." An observation that I wanted to share is that so many "wanna be." IMO, the quickest way to failure is to be a wanna be. How about being a be? I sent a text to one young lady after she left to make sure she got home ok. She worked so hard and I bet she had 200 swings in slightly over an hour. IMO, she is D-I all the way with great speed, exceptional glove and technique in the OF and an above average arm. One of my girls had a career in Colorado last week. She ended play with grand slam and another home run in the same game. She hit right at .680 in the tournament. Tonight, she hit for an hour and a half. Again, I am so proud of them. They are working at being a "be" and not a "wanna be."
    Nice!!

    Went to the park with my kids yesterday for a few hours. It was hot but they are troopers. Little one (3 year old boy) got his "swings" and ground balls in first before I hit grounders and pitched to my 8 year old DD. Usually the little one helps shag for my DD (stick him about 200 ft out there..8 year old cannot hit that far yet) but he was lazy yesterday and found shade instead

    Fun times. Reminds me of when I was a kid, play all day and don't realize how hot it is until you are done..keeps me young.
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    I know I post about my kids a lot and don't want to be a bore. I'm an old guy now. They help keep me young. When I work with them I see what is great about our country. We did one drill and one of the players could not get it right for so long. Instead of quitting, she slowed down and really walked herself through the drill in slow motion trying to get the feel of the drill. Watching her go through the process/sequence made me so proud. At one point, I was sweating so much that I couldn't see. I keep a "sweat towel" with me and it was soaked. The wife told me that the heat index was 114 while I was giving lessons.

    Pattar, you are do a great job as a parent. BB was complimented by a HS coach a couple of weeks ago on how she worked that school's camp. BB said to me that this "stuff" is all she knows. The work ethic you are teaching your dd will become all that she knows. It is so much more important than just softball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonball View Post

    Pattar, you are do a great job as a parent. BB was complimented by a HS coach a couple of weeks ago on how she worked that school's camp. BB said to me that this "stuff" is all she knows. The work ethic you are teaching your dd will become all that she knows. It is so much more important than just softball.
    I got a ways to go with parenting but I am trying. My father would take me to the field every day in the summer when I was a kid and it is the best memories I have with my father. I am hoping my kids have similar feelings when they are grown. Agree about teaching work ethic, the idea that if you want to be good at something you have to work at it, instilled in me by my parents, has carried through to other things in my life (including being a better parent..that is tough!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonball View Post
    I know I post about my kids a lot and don't want to be a bore. I'm an old guy now. They help keep me young. When I work with them I see what is great about our country. We did one drill and one of the players could not get it right for so long. Instead of quitting, she slowed down and really walked herself through the drill in slow motion trying to get the feel of the drill. Watching her go through the process/sequence made me so proud. At one point, I was sweating so much that I couldn't see. I keep a "sweat towel" with me and it was soaked. The wife told me that the heat index was 114 while I was giving lessons.

    Pattar, you are do a great job as a parent. BB was complimented by a HS coach a couple of weeks ago on how she worked that school's camp. BB said to me that this "stuff" is all she knows. The work ethic you are teaching your dd will become all that she knows. It is so much more important than just softball.
    Good luck with your surgery! Brag away about your players, we love reading it.

    Isn't is cool watching BB coach? I swear I have as much fun watching DD coach as watching her play. Seeing the little ones eyes light up around them is just awesome.
    Relax and enjoy the ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by MNDad View Post
    Good luck with your surgery! Brag away about your players, we love reading it.

    Isn't is cool watching BB coach? I swear I have as much fun watching DD coach as watching her play. Seeing the little ones eyes light up around them is just awesome.
    You are so right. It is fun watching BB coach now. I see bits of me in her only better. She has the temperament that I did not have as a younger coach. Also, she knows so much. There are a group of girls she coached from the age of 8 to 9. They are now 14U but she doesn't get to coach them now as she is 18U Gold. Still, those players are always talking to her. Tonight, a few of them are going to come for lessons from her. I set up the stuff and then step back, watch the grandpuppy and watch her coach.
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    Here is a brag on Cannonball. These numbers would not be what they are without his instruction. I asked DD's coach what her batting average currently is after about 30 games. Hers is highlighted. This is what good hitting instruction looks like. Keep in mind she is always one of the smallest girls on any team she plays on. Before she went to him she was a .250-.300 slap hitter.

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    That was very thoughtful of Mudrunner. The truth is, his dd is highly motivated and so coachable. She can play pretty much anywhere and is slightly faster than me..LOL Like the other young ladies that hit with me, we have a blast hitting, laugh some, have a rolling conversation as they hit and I look so forward to getting to see them each week to hear how they did the previous weekend.

    Mudrunner, the surgery was successful. I won't be moving fast for some time but I was sent home after one day. I told the Doctor, I will be walking normal in less than 2 weeks. We'll see if I can do that now.
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    That's great news Cannonball! Glad to here you are on the mend.

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