Y'all want to dissect this swing?

rdbass said:

This hitters 'hips fire' before her hands move forward. See what I mean about 'not everyone agrees on the 'proper sequence'.
Picture if the bat was held vertical during the 'loading' and over lapping/unloading. Wouldn't be that bad of a swing now, would it.

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Shawn said:

Are the hips firing or is she pushing forward?

Is this a classic shift and slot? I see some sitting, but not sure if she is just pushing forward that is creating the back knee to flex.

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pattar said:Have you ever seen anybody whose sequence is way off who doesn't have some degree of DBSF and bat drag? Honest question because I am wondering
if one just focuses on the proper sequence then the other stuff will fix itself e.g. with my DD instead of constantly harping on both not dumping the barrel
and making sure her hips fire before she starts to move her hands forward I could just work on the latter. It would be one less annoying thing
Dad is saying to her...

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rdbass said:

I've been saying this for a long while. Stress keep the bat vertical during the 'load' and the over lap,launch or unload( what ever you want to call it). The flaws of DBSF & bat drag will go away.
I've been there and I still stress to my DD to keep the bat vertical/tipped.
Tip & Rip. Of course that's more to just a vertical bat but, it's a start in the right direction. Again JMHO.

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rdbass said:

That's why I put the 'hips firing' like this ''. I was using Pattar's words.

I think he meant/means to say 'hips in front of hands'( don't want to put words in his mouth). I don't believe the hips should be 'firing' for the record. I was pointing out the hips are in front of the hands but, still didn't make it a good swing in this case.
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Bad wording on my part..sorry. What I was getting at with sequence and hips firing was the act of creating separation. I realize there is more to it then (coil, uncoil, etc) but when I look at this swing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0moFbeC-EA

what stands out the most to me is this the separation he creates.

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pattar said:

Bad wording on my part..sorry. What I was getting at with sequence and hips firing was the act of creating separation. I realize there is more to it then (coil, uncoil, etc) but when I look at this swing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0moFbeC-EA

what stands out the most to me is this the separation he creates.

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djcarter1966 said:

Not sure if I like this pic set but its a first try. You see drastically different front leg action but the most important part start at pic 3 foot plant notice even though they got there very differently they look very similar...actually if you freeze frame almost any elite swing it's going to look very close to this. Things look a little different and not quite as similar as I thought but some of that is Josh hitting a belt high pitch while Laurens pitch is at her knees. Anyway notice how you never see the bat drop flat until right before it makes contact the pic before contact you see unbroken wrist and the ball is literally right off the frame as there bats flatten out.
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CRay91 said:

Thank you! This definitely helps!

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CoachJD said:

For one thing, record in landscape mode. Unless you watch TV by turning it on its side, but I've never seen someone who does that.

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Eric F said:

CRay - One thing you will need to do to help your DD is to find someone who she is willing to take guidance from - whether it's you, your DH, or someone else. It will help her to know that the guidance she is getting isn't totally random guesses, but is based on a foundation of good information from someone who knows what they are talking about. If this is a process you and/or your DH are planning to take on, be dedicated to educating yourself. Staying ahead of her learning curve will be challenging. It's certainly possible that she may never listen to either of you (not uncommon at all), and an outside coach is the best avenue.

As for a different swings in the cage and in the box...this is COMPLETELY normal at this age. Hell, I have girls on my 12U TB team that still do that. A cage environment - especially if it's off a tee - reduces the variables and the anxiety involved with game hitting. Add those factors into the equation, and hitters tend to revert to whatever their baseline "normal" is. It can take a lot of work to get the two swings to be even vaguely similar. Buidling a better "normal" takes time. Reprogramming muscle memory isn't a quick-fix issue. Also...I suspect there is some sort of magic spell generated by drawing a chalk rectangle on the ground.

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rdbass said:

That's why I put the 'hips firing' like this ''. I was using Pattar's words.

I think he meant/means to say 'hips in front of hands'( don't want to put words in his mouth). I don't believe the hips should be 'firing' for the record. I was pointing out the hips are in front of the hands but, still didn't make it a good swing in this case.
I didn't want to pick apart this DD's swing. I was having a side discussion with pattar pertaining to his question.

When you look at the swing as a whole one could see this hitter has no sequence. Going to have to start from the beginning of all, mom,dad and DD learning the proper sequence. Or a hitting coach......

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Shawn said:

CRay,

What do you know about posture?

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