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Jan 25, 2011
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Went to a clinic at Robert Morris University near Pittsburgh yesterday. The assistant coach starts giving her hitting instructions to the girls, starts out talking about the load, thinking, okay, she has that down not to bad, keep the bat knob pointing towards the other batters box, I don't completely agree with that, I like the knob pointing more towards the catchers feet, but maybe it is just me. Coaches demos, looks like she doesn't like any negative move, hands static, I'm starting to think I just wasted $80 bucks, dd has a slow negative move walking a way from the hands. Then coach starts her swing driving the knob down towards the ball, I'm like crap, should of spent the $80 bucks on a pile of horse crap to fertilize the garden. The coach teaches an A to C swing, keeping the shoulders parallel and snapping the bat at the ball, reminds me of a power V look.

Coach breaks the girls out in stations with the current players running them. Dd gets to a station with a tee and starts hitting, of course dd doesn't follow their instructions. Dd turns the barrel behind the corner she creates with the hips and is crushing the ball. The coaches comes over and tells her she needs to line up the door knocking knuckles, tells her she needs to be palm up, palm down, I don't teach the door knocking grip, I tell dd to have a comfortable grip that she likes, dds top palm is up, but bottom hand on the bat doesn't have to be palm down, most of the time it is more like showing the pitcher her wrist like she has a watch on. She doesn't roll her wrist over at contact, so to me it isn't anything I stress about, dd knows when she rolls over to soon anyways by the path the ball takes after contact and adjusts it.

They start trying to change her load and her stance. Dd has a low stance, similar to Pujols, they want her to load her weight way back on her back leg, but when they demo what they want, I can see that the way they load it takes the weight back and places it on the outside of the knee and not balanced on the inside of the knee. Dd shakes her head, says okay and continues the way she has been taught. Dd gets into the cage and they adjust the pitching machine. Dd doesn't even swing at the first 2 pitches, the balls are low and outside about 4" off the plate and down around her ankles, she ask for them to adjust it and they don't, so dd just starts fouling them off, fouls off about 6 of them and miss a few. They stop and try to get dd to swing like they want, now I'm like I can see way they suck as a div. 1 team. They finally brought the pitches up and dd crushed them.

The only thing my dd got out of this extreme waste of money, is that there were some of the bigger TB orgs there and it just proves that just because you play for these high dollar teams. Mom and dad's money only goes so far. :cool:
 
Oct 11, 2010
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Chicago, IL
DD has been to a few clinics and has always had a good time. I am not sure there have been any lasting change in her game.

I pay a person for lessons to do that.
 
Jun 27, 2011
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North Carolina
The last time that I watched instruction like this at a camp, I began to think what would be a good presentation on hitting. What you usually get is 'this is how it's done.' In the example of the OP, does this coach really believe that an advanced travel ball player is coming to their camp to have their hitting mechanics totally rebuilt? Are the coaches that naive? Probably are.

What I'd rather hear is a coach who was well-versed on the different styles of hitting and could compare -- This one has a big stride, that one has no stride at all. This one has door-knocker grip, that one not. This one's hands get separation from torso, that one not. This one's hips are fully open at contact, that one remains somewhat closed. This one's back foot gains ground, that one's doesn't. Here's what we think of those differences. Here's what we teach. Know what kind of hitter you are, decide what you think is right, become a student of the game. Be aware of your style and understand why you do what you do. Be skeptical of people who just tell you what to do. It's not that simple. Put ownership on the hitter.
 
Jun 17, 2009
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Portland, OR
I had a hitter last week that had a local college perform a hitting/fielding clinic for her ASA/PGF team. She reported that this was the first time that the instruction was not screwed up and presented in very similar concepts to what we've discussed here. The point being ... some colleges are getting it.
 
May 22, 2015
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DD's entire 12U team is taking a 6 week camp at a local D3 college. It is over crowded and understaffed. I can't say that I agree with what he teaches as far as hitting goes, but the fielding portion is not terrible. Regardless I wish I could've used that money toward cage time or slap hitting clinics. I don't think in the grand scheme of things many girls will leave there better ball players, but as a team/bonding thing I guess it's ok. She did do a college camp last fall at a D1 school and really enjoyed it and picked up a few things, so we may just stick with camps at that school in the near future.
 
Apr 8, 2013
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I'm sure Michael Lotief was laughed at when he started instructing girls at camps. Have an open mind is all I'm saying...
 
Aug 6, 2013
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RMU Assistant Coach Keri Meyer;

Meyer is one of the most accomplished players in RMU history. She led the team to the 2005 NCAA Tournament by batting .418, a single-season school record that still stands, while posting a league-leading .472 on-base percentage and a .620 SLG%. She was named NEC Player of the Year that season and also claimed first team all-region honors for her remarkable contributions. Meyer was also the toughest player to strike out in Division I in 2005 and holds the best single-season at bat-to-strikeout ratio of any Division I player in the past decade.

Meyer helped the Colonials to a pair of NEC regular-season titles in her four years and was a three-time All-NEC honoree. She remains among the career top 10 in a variety of offensive categories at Robert Morris including batting average (.342), hits (165), RBI (77), doubles (29) and walks (46). Meyer was inducted into the RMU Athletic Hall of Fame in 2012
 

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