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Mar 11, 2010
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The last one I have seen was with all the drills.... The drills DVD's are nice when your working with a team of 20-40 girls.... I use my own drills but I am only working with a few kids at a time not 40... He is real nut about the game... He use to drag his infield numerous times per practice to avoid girls getting a bad hop.... One bad hop is all it takes some times... I believe he has since replaced his infield with turf...
 

TDS

Mar 11, 2010
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I'm not understanding the 'bounce' part. Why bounce the ball? Is the practice lack of size/area the reason?

You bounce it (one hop) so the ball is coming up through the zone trying to simulate the rise ball.
 
Dec 4, 2013
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If you bounce it near the hitter the ball will be rising as it comes through the zone. If you bounce it further away the ball will be dropping as it comes through the zone
 
Dec 4, 2013
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Got ya thanks for the info. He has a new one out regarding indoor practices. I think it's like 4-5 hours of material
 
Jun 17, 2009
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Portland, OR
If you bounce it near the hitter the ball will be rising as it comes through the zone. If you bounce it further away the ball will be dropping as it comes through the zone

Yet a riseball thrown for a called strike typically comes into the zone 'flat', and not 'rising'.

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Jun 17, 2009
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I thought it went without saying, but based on some recent posts I’m not so sure ... so let's state the obvious. The ‘red’ line depicted below does not reflect the path of a “riseball traveling through the strike zone” … the words that John used as he traced the path of the three balls with his left hand.

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The profile shown here does not come anywhere remotely close to the profile of a real riseball traveling through the strike zone. It's an old belief that has been largely dispelled. If you are teaching hitters to hit balls having a flight similar to that depicted by the 'red' line above, then consider applying the Hanson Principle to pitching and reconsider the notion.
 
Dec 4, 2013
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A bouncing tennis ball could flatten out as well as gravity starts to take over if you bounce it in the right spot. Prob tough to get the consistent effect that you want though. The main benefit of the drill is probably being able to actually see a rising ball coming toward you...
 
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Jun 18, 2012
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A bouncing tennis ball could flatten out as well as gravity starts to take over if you bounce it in the right spot. Prob tough to get the consistent effect that you want though. The main benefit of the drill is probably being able to actually see a rising ball coming toward you...

I struggle with the wording, "actually see a 'rising' ball." While a riseball, like all other pitches, will be on an upward trajectory as it's released from the hand, it isn't going to still be on an upward trajectory as it goes through the strike zone. If it is still on an upward trajectory, it will be above the strike zone and the batter should lay off of it. As I see it, a riseball that ends up being a strike will end up higher in the zone and will not have fallen as much as the other pitches that are thrown on a similar initial trajectory, but with non-riseball spins. I guess that's why it's so important for the batter to recognize the rotation of the ball. That's how I see it.
 
Jun 17, 2009
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A bouncing tennis ball could flatten out as well as gravity starts to take over if you bounce it in the right spot. Prob tough to get the consistent effect that you want though. The main benefit of the drill is probably being able to actually see a rising ball coming toward you...

Which is why the objective below could use some revision.

If you bounce it near the hitter the ball will be rising as it comes through the zone. If you bounce it further away the ball will be dropping as it comes through the zone

Yes to the second part, ... you would need to bounce the ball far enough away so as to obtain an arc that did NOT have the ball rising as it comes through the zone.
 

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