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Been using basic Wasserman water bottle drill and other cues. Looking to understand what to work on firstly to avoid injury, secondly speed/accuracy (if they can be considered together.) Have also looked at Chris O'Leary's information as far as having the forearm at or almost to vertical at foot plant. He states that is one of two keys to being injury free. The first being do not point ball at second base aka power 'T'.
Including the Wasserman information and the O'Leary info, my thoughts would be (in simple terms - and i know this is may not be perfect, but at least want to make sure we are started in the right direction, unless getting halfway is worse than not starting at all):
1)As front leg starts to step, draw back upper arm keeping below shoulder (extended forearm for outfielders and elbow bent for infield/catchers) i dont know the anatomical planes to use, but i see this more pinching the scaps (draw back bow and arrow) than thumbs down and around inverted W
2)as front leg starts to externally rotate, Keeping upper arm below shoulder start to rotate forearm vertical(water bottle drill examples) keeping ball facing 3rd base (assuming a right handed pitch location)
3) as foot plant occurs, torso starts to activate and the feel of the ball (water bottle) dropping behind the head, torso turns, elbow leads up and forward, forearm follows up and to release.
As far as my problems, is this basic set up correct, and when does each timing queue happen and how far out and back of the head should the ball get when the 'water bottle' action happens?
i have seen a few videos of Austin and others doing this, but have never heard the location behind the head identified. I have used this for myself and found the feel to be a loopy drop and whip behind my head, almost touching the back of my head. Not sure it should be that close. I do know it took away all my elbow paid, but did see some discomfort in the shoulder.
I know there are many more things to address here, but like i said, want to at least start down the path. I know the many other work outs and drills help achieve this, but just wanted to make sure I understood what the result should be.
The video is my DD 13yo, first year 14U. Had elbow pain at 10U, worked on water bottle drill and it helped because i think we were doing the ball to second and the power T as the go to.
Any thoughts and suggestions welcome.
http://youtu.be/8Lxyw2nfbY4
Including the Wasserman information and the O'Leary info, my thoughts would be (in simple terms - and i know this is may not be perfect, but at least want to make sure we are started in the right direction, unless getting halfway is worse than not starting at all):
1)As front leg starts to step, draw back upper arm keeping below shoulder (extended forearm for outfielders and elbow bent for infield/catchers) i dont know the anatomical planes to use, but i see this more pinching the scaps (draw back bow and arrow) than thumbs down and around inverted W
2)as front leg starts to externally rotate, Keeping upper arm below shoulder start to rotate forearm vertical(water bottle drill examples) keeping ball facing 3rd base (assuming a right handed pitch location)
3) as foot plant occurs, torso starts to activate and the feel of the ball (water bottle) dropping behind the head, torso turns, elbow leads up and forward, forearm follows up and to release.
As far as my problems, is this basic set up correct, and when does each timing queue happen and how far out and back of the head should the ball get when the 'water bottle' action happens?
i have seen a few videos of Austin and others doing this, but have never heard the location behind the head identified. I have used this for myself and found the feel to be a loopy drop and whip behind my head, almost touching the back of my head. Not sure it should be that close. I do know it took away all my elbow paid, but did see some discomfort in the shoulder.
I know there are many more things to address here, but like i said, want to at least start down the path. I know the many other work outs and drills help achieve this, but just wanted to make sure I understood what the result should be.
The video is my DD 13yo, first year 14U. Had elbow pain at 10U, worked on water bottle drill and it helped because i think we were doing the ball to second and the power T as the go to.
Any thoughts and suggestions welcome.
http://youtu.be/8Lxyw2nfbY4