2018 Easton Ghost

CoreSoftball20 said:

ASA and USSSA have different compression allowances and diff standards. They are different associations. Bat manufacturers
now make bats legal for ASA that wont pass USSSA.

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Sounds like a ploy to separate parents from more of their hard earned money when their DD plays both sanctions...

DD's team is playing USSSA Nationals this week. On opening day, Easton had a booth set up with a flock of Ghosts to try off a tee. It seemed odd to me that Easton would try to sell bats that couldn't be used in that tournament.

JAD said:

Sounds like a ploy to separate parents from more of their hard earned money when their DD plays both sanctions...

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I really don't get that statement...whats a ploy? Has nothing to do with manufacturers...ASSOCIATIONS make their own
standards.

If somebody can make a little hotter bat because one assoc standards diff than the other...why not?
Slowpitch has been doing this for years

I have heard from multiple sources that drop 8's are coming... hoping that is the case. Looks like prices on the drop 9/10 are starting to shift down a little as well.

CoreSoftball20 said:

I really don't get that statement...whats a ploy? Has nothing to do with manufacturers...ASSOCIATIONS make their own
standards.

If somebody can make a little hotter bat because one assoc standards diff than the other...why not?
Slowpitch has been doing this for years

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For as long as I can remember all of the popular bats had both the ASA and USSSA stamps. I am not sure what the differences are in the standards, but if some bats are now only stamped USSSA and some are only stamped ASA then parents who's DD's play both would have to buy two bats instead of one.

I have never played high level slowpitch, but the men's beer league we played in was a self contained REC league and we only played other teams in the league and all of our rules fell under one sanction or the other.

CoreSoftball20 said:

I really don't get that statement...whats a ploy? Has nothing to do with manufacturers...ASSOCIATIONS make their own
standards.

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Something similar happened a couple of years ago with team insurance. ASA insurance used to be universally accepted to play in tournaments, then PGF started requiring teams to buy their insurance to play in their tournaments. TB teams that played both sanctions then had to buy two insurance policies.

JAD said:

Something similar happened a couple of years ago with team insurance. ASA insurance used to be universally accepted to play in tournaments, then PGF started requiring teams to buy their insurance to play in their tournaments. TB teams that played both sanctions then had to buy two insurance policies.

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PGF; just trying to make as much money as the can without having to spend some money to put a quality product out there(Just like every other softball tournament organization, how much money can we make without having to put a decent product on the field, whether that be decent fields, or decent officials).

JAD said:

For as long as I can remember all of the popular bats had both the ASA and USSSA stamps. I am not sure what the differences are in the standards, but if some bats are now only stamped USSSA and some are only stamped ASA then parents who's DD's play both would have to buy two bats instead of one.

I have never played high level slowpitch, but the men's beer league we played in was a self contained REC league and we only played other teams in the league and all of our rules fell under one sanction or the other.

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Until USSSA issued it's new stamp in 2012 or 2013, virtually all FP bats were gtg for both ASA and USSSA. At that point, there were hundreds of bats legal for ASA that were no longer legal for USSSA. And there are still at least several dozen that fit that description. It seems strange that there's a fuss being made over one new model.

As for slowpitch, until the last few years, there were almost always different models for ASA vs. USSSA/NSA. The ones with the ASA stamp would also have the USSSA and NSA stamps. With the 52/300 or 52/275 ball becoming the norm, most newer bats have all the stamps. Several manufacturers have produced ASA only bats, however. Those bats, until the Easton Ghost ( may be wrong on this) , have been legal only in slow pitch and men's fast pitch.

I think NSA did the same thing as USSSA with a new stamp in 2012.



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Comocoach said:

Until USSSA issued it's new stamp in 2012 or 2013, virtually all FP bats were gtg for both ASA and USSSA. At that point, there were hundreds of bats legal for ASA that were no longer legal for USSSA. And there are still at least several dozen that fit that description. It seems strange that there's a fuss being made over one new model.

As for slowpitch, until the last few years, there were almost always different models for ASA vs. USSSA/NSA. The ones with the ASA stamp would also have the USSSA and NSA stamps. With the 52/300 or 52/275 ball becoming the norm, most newer bats have all the stamps. Several manufacturers have produced ASA only bats, however. Those bats, until the Easton Ghost ( may be wrong on this) , have been legal only in slow pitch and men's fast pitch.

I think NSA did the same thing as USSSA with a new stamp in 2012.

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I remember USSSA coming out with their new stamp and immediately deeming any bat without it illegal for use in their tournaments, but I thought all the major manufacturers just switched to the new logo that year and it was business as usual. Was there a spec modification when they changed logos?

JAD said:

I remember USSSA coming out with their new stamp and immediately deeming any bat without it illegal for use in their tournaments, but I thought all the major manufacturers just switched to the new logo that year and it was business as usual. Was there a spec modification when they changed logos?

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I'm speaking of older model bats being non approved for USSSA. You are correct that newer models just changed the stamp as they still met the association standards


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