Thanks I think Im going to buy one but I thought they were going to change design from lining door knockers up to lining up door knocker on 1 hand and back knuckles on the other. (per latest studies) I also think Mark H commented on this as being something he prefers but doesnt argue it because kids usallally go back to it (the right way) after been shown the other. This would probabally make a good thread. Before coming to this site and others I taught doorknockers also.