Dad "promoted" to assistant and all hell breaks loose (LONG)

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J.Galt

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My daughter had found a team finally which we really like. She's a talented catcher, and just needs the reps to get really good. We weren't getting looks from the elite teams in our area for a variety of reasons, but we found a team with a great coach, a good group of girls, and enough talent to compete with anyone. Head coach doesn't have a daughter on the team, so no "daddy ball."

We played a few tournaments in the fall, and had mixed results. We were happy, though, because daughter was improving, and you could see tons of potential in the team when they played together. Lots of unnecessary fielding errors which I chalked up to lack of focus rather than lack of fundamentals.

Against this backdrop, daughter got a stress fracture in her foot and had to sit for about eight weeks. It was a good time to be out because we didn't miss much. She was cleared to play in time for a tournament this weekend. We were probably the weakest team in our pool, but thought we'd do okay.

When we started playing, I noticed that one of the dads was now coaching first base and in the dugout. I asked about it, and was told that he started helping out about the same time we started rehabbing. Then I watched with increasing dismay. Dad was a train-wreck. He yelled at the girls in the dugout and after games. Even worse, he showed his rear during the games. There was a bang-bang play to end the inning at home plate involving his daughter, and he ran up on the umpire yelling about obstruction. In a later game, he went crazy when his daughter was called out at first.

All of this led to grumbling between the parents. One of the pitcher's dad says he's so upset that they're thinking of pulling out of the team. We had two new players whose parents seemed horrified. The girls appear to have developed cliques, and there's no cohesion in the dugout. Errors galore in the field (which I sincerely think is related to the drama). Add to this the fact that his instruction is just bad. He criticized my daughter for throwing from her knees (after a block) and I heard him telling other players to "swing up on the ball." His daughter has a "scoop" at the bottom of her swing because of this advice.

We've gone from a no-drama team with tons of potential to a sloppy team that's about to fall apart. I trace it all back to the morale problems of putting this dad on the other side of the fence. I've spoken to the coach about it, but if he doesn't get rid of daddy-coach, I'm not sure what we're going to do.

Advice or helpful war stories would be appreciated.



Lots of teams out there, let them know of your disapproval by taking your daughter elsewhere
 
Jul 29, 2016
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Lots of teams out there, let them know of your disapproval by taking your daughter elsewhere

True, but this would ramp up the drama quite a bit. We have paid the (considerable) team fee already, and the sum is enough that we'd want most of it back. My daughter likes the team, and we have great admiration for the HC. We'll see how he deals with the situation.
 

J.Galt

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If your concern was keeping a damper on the drama, you wouldn't post about it on a softball forum.


Pull your kid from the team, if a few others follow suit then hopefully the HC parts ways with the Rambo dad (is he sub 6 foot? Sub 6 foot males always Napoleon out) and then you guys can go back. If the HC keeps the guy, you go elsewhere. If you're not prepared to leave then you're either not bothered by it or not that dedicated to your kid that you would get them outbof a toxic situation.
 
Jul 29, 2016
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If your concern was keeping a damper on the drama, you wouldn't post about it on a softball forum.


Pull your kid from the team, if a few others follow suit then hopefully the HC parts ways with the Rambo dad (is he sub 6 foot? Sub 6 foot males always Napoleon out) and then you guys can go back. If the HC keeps the guy, you go elsewhere. If you're not prepared to leave then you're either not bothered by it or not that dedicated to your kid that you would get them outbof a toxic situation.

So what you're suggesting is that instead of seeing whether the head coach solves the problem himself after speaking with him is to escalate by quitting the team to see if anyone else leaves? Do I have that right?

I posted about it on a softball forum to see if anyone had any constructive advice. This ain't it, chief.
 
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I would not make a move yet and give it a little time. When I was coaching I got in a position that I needed some extra help from some dads. They all sounded great when first talking and thought it would help the team. The next thing I knew they were running their on drills in practice. Telling players to do things against my philosophy. It was very obvious very quick it was headed in a bad direction. When trying to reign them in they decided they would take the team over and planned a parent meeting without my knowledge to get other parents on board. Needless to say they were no longer on the team. Hated like crazy to do that to the girls but there was no other options. So sometimes a head coach may try something and it doesn’t work. Give him the opportunity to make it right. If no correction happens then it’s time to move on because the coach is not really as good as you thought.
 
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I agree with the idea to give the head coach an opportunity to fix this, but in a more direct manner. Assuming the state of things is as you say, and on the brink of collapse, I would have a very direct conversation with the HC. If other parents agree with you and are close to leaving then I would let the coach know that he is going to have to choose between keeping the assistant or keeping multiple players. Tell him bluntly that this is not an ultimatum, just the truth. Let him know you respect him greatly, and want to play for him as HC, just not with this assistant. Assuming it is as close to collapse as it sounds, what do you have to lose?
 

J.Galt

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So what you're suggesting is that instead of seeing whether the head coach solves the problem himself after speaking with him is to escalate by quitting the team to see if anyone else leaves? Do I have that right?

I posted about it on a softball forum to see if anyone had any constructive advice. This ain't it, chief.


My suggestion would be that you let the head coach know that the rectal wart he has with him on the bench is a poor reflection on your kid and all of the other kids on the team and at least you and your kid are leaving until warty is relieved of his duties
 
Feb 17, 2014
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First, I wouldn't listen to J. Galt.

Second, you obviously need to have a conversation with the coach and see how it goes.
 
Jul 29, 2016
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My suggestion would be that you let the head coach know that the rectal wart he has with him on the bench is a poor reflection on your kid and all of the other kids on the team and at least you and your kid are leaving until warty is relieved of his duties

I was a it more diplomatic about it, but this is exactly what I did. The timing was a little tough, because it was two hours before we started day-two of a disastrous tournament. HC said all the right things - about how he regretted asking the guy for help and that he was going to talk to the dad. The reason I posted about it here was to get some insight on how to handle things if we don't see a correction.

I appreciate the input, though.
 

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