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    Quote Originally Posted by riseball View Post
    The success of the NPF hinges on Cheri Kempf finding a new hobby.
    I wrote like 500 words on this and you summarized all of it with a single sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riseball View Post
    ...Ultimately fans donít root for players but for teams... Pretty much tells you all you need to know about the NPF.
    I'll root for Kelley Montalvo where ever she plays!!!! Amazing person
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    1. New name is a good idea... but not MLF. Too close to MILF........
    2. Partner with MLB the way women’s basket has partnered with NBA - all MLB teams throw in support money
    3. Marketing, market, marketing........ look at all the women owns businesses, sports related businesses, woman target audience businesses and yes car companies because women drive cars and trucks.... what about soda companies too.... Health insurance companies (one of the largest is run by a collegiate 2 sport athlete)
    4. Regionalize - then nationalize.
    5. Television - yes, it’s expensive but with #2 and #3...you can afford to get some air time on ESPN - b level stations
    6. Leverage your players...... advertising campaigns with your #3 companies - helps build league brand, sponsor brand and player brand
    7. Sports equipment businesses should be #1 sponsors - cuts cost of equipment and uniforms
    8. Camps - revenue generation. Leverage player skills and build a following.
    9. Find the right spokespeople...... they need a big time schmoozer that can network the heck out of this
    10. Airline partnership......
    11. Consider doing a traveling game series/exhibition to test out markets and increase viewership. But, you need #10 to make it work.


    Right now, businesses can buy advertising on a players jersey...... really. That’s base level monetization with little reward for company or player.
    Many young players don’t even know names of NPF players..... how sad is that
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bucketmom View Post
    1. New name is a good idea... but not MLF. Too close to MILF........
    Ha, I thought the same thing -- glad you said it!

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    2. Partner with MLB the way women’s basket has partnered with NBA - all MLB teams throw in support money
    This would seem to be the natural course, but this 'Baseball for All' thing is spending lots of ad dollars during MLB games and it has me puzzled. I wish there was that kind of marketing support behind NPF -- I've seen much more of those little girls saying "Put me in coach" than I have of Sierra Romero or Keilani Ricketts. I guess the biggest problem facing cross-promotion between MLB and NPF is that they share the same season has have different venue needs. The WNBA can use NBA facilities in the offseason, kind of a win-win for pro basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick M View Post
    This would seem to be the natural course, but this 'Baseball for All' thing is spending lots of ad dollars during MLB games and it has me puzzled. I wish there was that kind of marketing support behind NPF -- I've seen much more of those little girls saying "Put me in coach" than I have of Sierra Romero or Keilani Ricketts. I guess the biggest problem facing cross-promotion between MLB and NPF is that they share the same season has have different venue needs. The WNBA can use NBA facilities in the offseason, kind of a win-win for pro basketball.
    Coming from the baseball for all thing, it has me insanely disappointed. This is only MLB's effort to say, "Look, we're not sexist, we support women!" The things I could tell you... My daughter is one of the few super serious baseball players that went away from BFA because they're not serious. We're no longer affiliated with BFA. The sexist BS they push makes me sick. I do get the baseball thing and why MLB is backing it. That's another story too. Let's just say if MLB backed softball, lots of feminazis would loose their ever loving minds.

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    There's no reason for MLB to consider endorsing Pro Fastpitch. There's also nothing compelling fastpitch to need/want that endorsement. NPF has a monumental battle to monetize the sport. Franchises should be free to owners that can show they have the financial ability to make payroll and expenses. Also, the only people willing to go to the stadium and watch are either former or current players. No one else has interest

    Intermingling men and women in sports? Good luck with that
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    I actually 100% agree with 625...What makes MLB want to do anything with NPF and why? The only people that think MLB should
    support (and by support, people really mean pay for everything because NPF is a money wasteland) is fastpitch ex players or parents that wanna watch it...and hell, there are even a lot
    of ex players that don't even care about watching softball. So MLB should just throw money away because of a select few that wanna watch softball.

    I like watching college softball, but pro...not so much. I will watch if im flipping thru but prob will not watch the whole game. Softball has to show they have an audience and can
    show some kind of monetary value before anything happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoreSoftball20 View Post
    I actually 100% agree with 625...What makes MLB want to do anything with NPF and why? The only people that think MLB should
    support (and by support, people really mean pay for everything because NPF is a money wasteland) is fastpitch ex players or parents that wanna watch it...and hell, there are even a lot
    of ex players that don't even care about watching softball. So MLB should just throw money away because of a select few that wanna watch softball.

    I like watching college softball, but pro...not so much. I will watch if im flipping thru but prob will not watch the whole game. Softball has to show they have an audience and can
    show some kind of monetary value before anything happens.
    Nah, the actual reason is that there is no realistic path to a professional (or even college) career for women in baseball. Yes, we will have a woman or two who can throw in the high 80s and she will get a look as a pitcher. But that's one person. A woman's baseball league won't gain traction without greatly altering the dimensions of he field. If MLB wants women to be involved in the sport, they should get behind a softball league (it doesn't have to be the NPF; they really should just start their own).

    The idea is to get more women to follow the sport. And yes, plenty of women already do. But if you're trying to grow your game, a good way to do it is to show little girls that women can play, too.

    The WNBA still relies heavily on NBA subsidies, but at least some of the teams have pretty good attendance. The league is, to some extent, successful. People are watching, and the NBA apparently feels this is ultimately good for their business. I don't see any reason why they same can't be true for an MLB-sponsored softball league.

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    Creating an developing a women's fastpitch league in concert with the MLB is akin to getting the band back together and touring with Van Halen. It fills the time while tipping a few cold ones but the next morning it is back to the real world.

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    Phil Neikro made the Silver Bullets back in the 90s. It was an all female professional baseball league. It lasted only 4 years. Once Coors pulled sponsor money they folded

    When a woman can pitch 90+ or hit a 400ft home run and run 90ft bases like a champ she will get a look. Otherwise it's not going to happen

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