A college coach with his daughter on the team???

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Dec 12, 2012
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Is it within NCAA rules for a D2 college coach to have his daughter on the team? It would seem unfair for recruited scholarship players to have to deal with that. Like Little league all over again. My daughter really wanted to play at CALDWELL U in NJ but we noticed that for the last two seasons the coach's daughter was on the team. Not sure I want her to be with a coach who would do that. Seems unethical and really not smart. Aren't there other places she could have played? Imagine if your kid played the same position as his daughter? What if he gave his kid more playing time than other kids even if she wasn't one of the better players statistically? They couldn't even complain because he would just take it out on them and they'd play even less. That's seems like a no win situation to be sure. Thoughts?

Phil Berry @ Harding?
 
Nov 3, 2012
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Its silly to worry about "Daddy Ball" at the college level. Daddy Ball is a rec league and sometime a low level travel ball thing. Coaching college softball is closest to the highest pinnacle a coach can get to. This coach didn't get there by playing the wrong people including his DD. The coaches DD probably has been around softball her whole life and likely has an advantage over most kids in that area, and is why she's playing college ball. Im sure the coach got her on the team because she's good, and improves his/her chances of winning.

On the flip side of things, someone told me that the NCAA has restrictions on scholarships given to coaches kids because sometimes schools hire dads to get their Son/DD to attend the school. Im going on heresay, and never researched it. But Ill cite the best example and the reason why the rule exists. Do you remember Danny Manning? His Junior year is the best high school prospect in the country and plays in North Carolina. Before his Senior year, his dad gets a job on Larry Brown's Kansas University Staff and the Manning's move to Lawrence, KS and Danny signs with the Jayhawks. This resulted in a NCAA championship later in 1988 and some All-American seasons for Manning and the Jayhawks. I think also in 1998, Mario Chalmers Dad was on the staff of Bill Self's NCAA championship team. Sometime after that, the NCAA implemented a rule saying you cant give scholarships to kids with parents of the staff at the school.

Maybe its safe to say "Daddy Ball" at the college level is an effective winning strategy.
 
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Nov 18, 2013
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Its silly to worry about "Daddy Ball" at the college level. Daddy Ball is a rec league and sometime a low level travel ball thing. Coaching college softball is closest to the highest pinnacle a coach can get to. This coach didn't get there by playing the wrong people including his DD. The coaches DD probably has been around softball her whole life and likely has an advantage over most kids in that area, and is why she's playing college ball. Im sure the coach got her on the team because she's good, and improves his/her chances of winning.

On the flip side of things, someone told me that the NCAA has restrictions on scholarships given to coaches kids because sometimes schools hire dads to get their Son/DD to attend the school. Im going on heresay, and never researched it. But Ill cite the best example and the reason why the rule exists. Do you remember Danny Manning? His Junior year is the best high school prospect in the country and plays in North Carolina. Before his Senior year, his dad gets a job on Larry Brown's Kansas University Staff and the Manning's move to Lawrence, KS and Danny signs with the Jayhawks. This resulted in a NCAA championship later in 1988 and some All-American seasons for Manning and the Jayhawks. I think also in 1998, Mario Chalmers Dad was on the staff of Bill Self's NCAA championship team. Sometime after that, the NCAA implemented a rule saying you cant give scholarships to kids with parents of the staff at the school.

Maybe its safe to say "Daddy Ball" at the college level is an effective winning strategy.

Not sure what the scholarship implications are, but oftentimes students get free, or significantly reduced tuition when a parent works for the school. When that's the case and it's allowed it's kind of a no-brainer to have your kid on the team. The OP is an idiot and coward for posting this anonymously, but it's made for some great entertainment.
 
Nov 26, 2010
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I looked up this team and the coach.

Which brings me to this story, that has nothing to do with coaches kids playing. How he got the job as head coach.

Just before the 1995 spring season, the softball coach at the time left in the middle of a practice and never returned. Mark Corino, Caldwell’s Assistant Vice President and Director of Athletics, asked Johnson if he would fill in as softball coach. Johnson agreed, finished the practice session that day and stayed on as coach through the season. Since that day in 1995, his teams have won at least 27 games in each of the past 20 seasons while experiencing only one losing campaign during his tenure. Over the past 14 seasons, the Cougars have gone 549-213-3 overall and 288-49 in the CACC.
 
Jul 16, 2013
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Pennsylvania
I looked up this team and the coach.

Which brings me to this story, that has nothing to do with coaches kids playing. How he got the job as head coach.

Just before the 1995 spring season, the softball coach at the time left in the middle of a practice and never returned. Mark Corino, Caldwell’s Assistant Vice President and Director of Athletics, asked Johnson if he would fill in as softball coach. Johnson agreed, finished the practice session that day and stayed on as coach through the season. Since that day in 1995, his teams have won at least 27 games in each of the past 20 seasons while experiencing only one losing campaign during his tenure. Over the past 14 seasons, the Cougars have gone 549-213-3 overall and 288-49 in the CACC.

This is great stuff! One thing I learned a long time ago is that facts are often the worst enemy of agendas.
 
Nov 3, 2012
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Im taking a step further. Assuming the Pitcher named Johnson is coaches DD, she's also pretty good. She has a 16-9 record and a 2.81 ERA. Not bad for college. I would say to original poster, maybe this coach knows how to coach and he probably knows something about pitching as he helped his DD reach a high level. Id recommend trying to get on this team, because it looks like the coach know's what he's doing.
 
Nov 29, 2009
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At DePaul Eugene Lenti had two daughters play for him - Ali and Gena Lenti.

I think his sister Jean Lenti Ponsetto is Athletic Director too...

He also had his niece play for him. I don't think she played much. She wasn't a real strong player.
 
Apr 16, 2010
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Is it within NCAA rules for a D2 college coach to have his daughter on the team? It would seem unfair for recruited scholarship players to have to deal with that. Like Little league all over again. My daughter really wanted to play at CALDWELL U in NJ but we noticed that for the last two seasons the coach's daughter was on the team. Not sure I want her to be with a coach who would do that. Seems unethical and really not smart. Aren't there other places she could have played? Imagine if your kid played the same position as his daughter? What if he gave his kid more playing time than other kids even if she wasn't one of the better players statistically? They couldn't even complain because he would just take it out on them and they'd play even less. That's seems like a no win situation to be sure. Thoughts?

How about I doubt the posters DD was is being recruited by the school. I would bet the poster's DD is playing for them now and is sitting behind the coaches daughter. Just like we see at every level so many parents can't take off the rose colored glasses and realize their DD may not be the best at that position on the team. They want to complain instead of having their DD use that as motivation to improve.
 

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