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MTR

Jun 22, 2008
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Barnhill can and does once she is called. However, her speed decrases 4-5mph when she keeps the drive foot dragging. She can't get as much hip motion if she doesn't go airborne.

Yeah, sort of the idea of the rule.
 

MTR

Jun 22, 2008
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An injustice is being done to all teams if some umpires enforce the rules and others don't. The reason pitchers can get away with it is that they have been allowed to. Why would coaches demand changes if they know that their pitcher can get away with being illegal. If the rule is the problem, then change it. It hurts the game to have so many people throughout the country know that certain players and programs can break the rules while others are held to playing by the rules.

The only problem with the rule is the lack of a demand made by the coaches to make sure their pitchers are legal. Maybe all rules should be made based upon participation abilities.

Then again, I have suggested for more than 5 years that maybe they should just move the PP to 46' and let them leap or crow hop all they want.
 

JAD

Feb 20, 2012
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Georgia
Just watched Barnhill blatantly leap out about 3', replant and throw. No call on it yet... but we are in Gainsville so we know how that is going to go.

Would LOVE to see Tim Walton lose his cool with the umpiring staff from the Northwestern game calling Kelly Barnhill for in IP on every pitch she threw...
 
May 30, 2013
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Binghamton, NY
Would LOVE to see Tim Walton lose his cool with the umpiring staff from the Northwestern game calling Kelly Barnhill for in IP on every pitch she threw...

I watched Northwestern's last game, and that freshman pitcher has the *exact same* motion/delivery as Barnhill.
As about as a carbon-copy as there could be. Uncanny how similar.
Holy double-standards, Batman!
 
Feb 17, 2014
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Orlando, FL
I always thought Barnhill was being criticized for leaping. But after watching, you're right, she does a full replant of the pivot foot. That's messed up.

She does replant, but once she leaps the replant is a moot point. I have yet to see a pitcher do a replant without first leaping. Not saying it is impossible, just have yet to see it.
 

panthadad2

fastpitch pops
Jun 27, 2017
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It's not a moot point. The replant allows a double push off with the pivot foot. After the leap, Barnhill basically starts a new pitching motion with the lower body 4-5 feet closer to home plate.

[video]https://youtu.be/fU7RqV2_NkU[/video]
 
Feb 17, 2014
7,152
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Orlando, FL
It's not a moot point. The replant allows a double push off with the pivot foot. After the leap, Barnhill basically starts a new pitching motion with the lower body 4-5 feet closer to home plate.

[video]https://youtu.be/fU7RqV2_NkU[/video]

If she commits an IP (leaping) to get into position replant how is the replant relevant with the respect to calling an IP? She has already committed an IP before she replants.
 

panthadad2

fastpitch pops
Jun 27, 2017
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If she commits an IP (leaping) to get into position replant how is the replant relevant with the respect to calling an IP? She has already committed an IP before she replants.

I think we're talking apples and oranges. Sounds like you're referring to the rule only. I'm referring to how the replant and subsequent double push off creates a massive physical advantage...much more than just the leap (rear foot leaving the ground).
 

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