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- Jun 8, 2016
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Yeah, at some point in the hierarchy somebody needs to do the right thing. Whether the buck stops at the coach, AD or above that. Sometimes all it takes is one person in power who does what he/she believes is the right thing, regardless of how that decision may effect him/her, to clean up a situation. On the other hand, if the person at the top of the food chain plays politics, typically that behavior eventually filters down through the ranks. I've seen here at OU where the president was (he is retiring) a Senator...the new president is an Oil Exec..yay for Oklahoma!!
Also somebody mentioned how college softball has a lot of the same issues. This is only because it is not a revenue generating sport. Men's college basketball and football are pretty much the exact opposite. Whoever the starting QB is for OU in the fall will be the best player in Lincoln Riley's mind because if he isn't and they end up 6-6 for a few years in a row he won't have a job.
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Who is the 3rd party? The HC and AC have frank discussions about players. In some situations, the HC, AC, the AD, a HS dean and the HS principal are involved. These discussions are necessary and required.
If you are talking about the third party being someone not affiliated with the school, then you have to look at the context and exactly what was said.
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If I was going to be cynical, I would say he is not having the ceremony because it won't benefit him in anyway which goes to my above thought regarding doing the right regardless of how it effects you.
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OU in the late 80's and early 90's, e.g at the end of the Switzer era and up till Stoops was a mess. D1 football and basketball is still a mess for a lot of reasons, but one thing that doesn't go on very often is playing favorites because you will be out of job pretty quick if you do . I honestly don't care much about college athletics, e.g. I don't have a favorite team. I grew up in MA and nobody in MA cares much about college sports unless you go to a school and I went to a D3 school for undergrad so...
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The third party was someone not involved with the HS program in any way. The problem I see about a coach bad mouthing a kid is, it takes years to build good reputation and it takes only one bad story to bring it all down. When negative things are said about a kids character by a coach, it holds value even if they are not true. For example, a coach calls a pitch and the pitcher misses her spot, will it be right for the coach to tell someone that the pitcher is pitching her own game and not listening to the coach? Being insubordinate to a coach in a game situation is not what a kid want to be associated with.
Before I could tell you if I think it's wrong or not, I need to know:
Who did you hear this from? What was their motivation for telling you? Was this the entire conversation or just a selected nugget? Does this 3rd party have any influence on the future of your dds softball career?
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That seems pretty minor. Coaches, parents and other players are going to talk about your kid. The negative comments sting, but you have to let them roll off. Let her actions on and off the field speak for her and it doesn’t matter what anybody else says.
Also given that the general consensus of TB parents is “HS coaches are idiots, ignore what they say and do it my way”, it would be natural for a HS coach to view TB players as insubordinate. Probably not fair, but I can’t blame them given all the negative things parents say about them.
