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I think it has a lot to do with the offense. I can tell you that if I was on a college baseball team and my 20 year old team-mate got busted for having a beer, I would not feel disrespected. I would just think "unlucky you for getting the cop that feels the need to waste everyone's time and money instead of getting one of the other 90% of cops that would just tell you to pour your beer out and "don't let me catch you with another one".


So what's different about it? Both are illegal.
 

ian

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Hopefully the judge gives them a year in the slammer and the fine. It's against the law!
 
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It's a softball site people.

If you want to engage in the worlds stupidist argument go to the comments section of every newspaper in the country, find any article that mentions weed in any way and post your comments amongst the super intelligent comments you will find there.

Edited to add: Bob in Madison, that's a pretty good comment and is thought provoking. You get a pass on my scorn for this argument, lol
 
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I think it has a lot to do with the offense. I can tell you that if I was on a college baseball team and my 20 year old team-mate got busted for having a beer, I would not feel disrespected. I would just think "unlucky you for getting the cop that feels the need to waste everyone's time and money instead of getting one of the other 90% of cops that would just tell you to pour your beer out and "don't let me catch you with another one".

That's rare anymore. Most times a kid with a beer gets a MIP and very little chance of getting just a warning
 

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A friend of mine is a Federal Prosecutor who strongly agrees with legalization of marijuana. His words..."Stoned people don't go on killing sprees, they just want a bag of Doritos and the couch." Valid point.

Eric, with all due respect, this was not my experience. I grew up in a housing projects. Drugs were the norm as was crime. I've been stabbed, had guns shoved into my back and told that I had breathed my last breath ... I have been beaten with a ball bat and left for dead. All of that was due to drug addicts. I've seen death from overdoses etc. I'm an old fart and not PC. I know what I know from experience. The guys I know who started with weed, progressed to every imaginable drug, robbery, ... I'm not hip to legalization.

Per these young ladies or any other people. Life is about consequences both good and bad. Do the crime and do the time. It is no different in life. I have been in some tough situations were I knew that if I did what I was going to do, I'd have to pay. I paid. Today, in a faculty meeting, a topic was brought up. The faculty called out my name. I knew/know there might be a price to pay for what I would say. I said it. I "did the crime" and now I am a man and I'll do the time.
 
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Eric, with all due respect, this was not my experience. I grew up in a housing projects. Drugs were the norm as was crime. I've been stabbed, had guns shoved into my back and told that I had breathed my last breath ... I have been beaten with a ball bat and left for dead. All of that was due to drug addicts. I've seen death from overdoses etc. I'm an old fart and not PC. I know what I know from experience. The guys I know who started with weed, progressed to every imaginable drug, robbery, ... I'm not hip to legalization.

Per these young ladies or any other people. Life is about consequences both good and bad. Do the crime and do the time. It is no different in life. I have been in some tough situations were I knew that if I did what I was going to do, I'd have to pay. I paid. Today, in a faculty meeting, a topic was brought up. The faculty called out my name. I knew/know there might be a price to pay for what I would say. I said it. I "did the crime" and now I am a man and I'll do the time.

I didn't grow up the way you grew up. I didn't experience the things you experienced. Because of that, I have no standing to judge your experience other saying that it's a good thing you survived so you could have a positive influence on the people who have crossed your path...and I include myself in that group.

In my own experience, there are people - including family members and friends - who have fallen down the hole of addiction. From what I have observed, marijuana was a stepping stone on a path they were going down anyway, and it wasn't the first stepping stone. On the flip side, there are the people - including family members and friends - who use marijuana and also live responsible and respectable lives. In my circle, there are more of the second group than the first group.

Marijuana is easy to get - legal or not - for those who want it. It has been for decades. There are strong arguments on both sides of the legalization question.

All that said, the Auburn players broke the rules of the team, and the laws of the state they live in. I agree that they should be bound to the consequences of the rules and laws they broke.
 
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The worst thing about the marijuana laws is this:

Part of our American heritage, which we get from English Common Law, is the idea that laws should be fair, and that the fair laws should be obeyed by all. No man is above the law. We are a nation of laws, and not men.

This idea is why the Civil Rights movement succeeded. People genuinely believed laws should be fair, and when they saw there were certain laws that were unfair, they objected. For the Brits, that is why Gandhi was so powerful. He showed the Brits that they were being unfair.

When we have a law which most people consider unfair, it corrodes not only our legal system, but the faith the American people have in our legal system.

Remember, FDR campaigned on the Repeal of Prohibition as a crime-fighting tool. Take the booze business away from Al Capone and give it back to Johnny Walker. Seriously, he said Repeal would help the police. And he was right.

I have long felt that legalization and taxation of marijuana would improve our legal system and would help our police fight crime.

Two things:
1) If you don't like a law, work to change it. Don't feel entitled to break it simply because you feel it isn't fair.
2) Why do so many people volunteer to have new taxes levied upon them? I just don't get it. It's always "legalize it and TAX it" as if that somehow makes it ok.
 
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In the grand scheme of things this is minor. FWIW an NCAA athlete can get into much more trouble by consuming products found at the local GNC.
 
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In the grand scheme of things this is minor. FWIW an NCAA athlete can get into much more trouble by consuming products found at the local GNC.

Great post!

What's on the list now DHEA? Creatine?...
Is it women that can get into more trouble at GNC, due to the elevated hormone levels they can get from various products they can take?
 
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