Politics in high school softball suck!

DD has 2 friend that were home schooled. One is in college in Florida and the other is going to Georgia on a gymnastic scholarship next year. Both are good kids.

Country Boy said:

I have never met a parent that didn't believe their TB star was better than everyone else on the HS team. But they forget, while their prima donna is working out with their TB team, much of the rest of my HS team is working together in the weight room and during open gyms. So little Miss Perfection is supposed to be embraced with open arms? And penciled in as the starting P, C, SS and batting 1-4 all at the same time?

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I wish my daughter was a TB star so she could prove your theorem wrong. But, she is not.

EP Dad said:

I wish my daughter was a TB star so she could prove your theorem wrong. But, she is not.

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Neither were any of mine. But they were decent HS players.

One other point about TB players. They are the only players that show up on Day 1 of HS practice and truly believe that their dung doesn't smell. Many of them have had so much smoke blown up their backside that they look down on all of the non-TB players. As someone building a team instead of a showcase program, that gets old.

If a 14A team plays an 18A team, who is going to win 95 times out of 100? So why do so many freshmen (14A) parents think their daughter should be playing varsity with the Seniors (18A)?

So TB players are prima donnas, little miss perfects, and they all believe that their dung doesn't smell. Got it. You are the quintessential high school coach with an axe to grind against TB players.

Country Boy said:

If a 14A team plays an 18A team, who is going to win 95 times out of 100? So why do so many freshmen (14A) parents think their daughter should be playing varsity with the Seniors (18A)?

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well to be honest, I'm a asst. H.S. coach, a 14A team would beat a H.S. team that has no TB players on it. These girls that only play H.S. ball, would not be considered 18A team. My dd at 13yo last year was better then most of the H.S. Players on the team, that don't play TB. I don't know what point you are trying to make, but you are so wrong. Good luck

Except I am also a current TB coach. My daughters played TB. I believe strongly in the benefits of TB.

I welcome TB players. They are more skilled than the girls that haven't played TB. But that doesn't make them necessarily the best team members.

29dad said:

So TB players are prima donnas, little miss perfects, and they all believe that their dung doesn't smell. Got it. You are the quintessential high school coach with an axe to grind against TB players.

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Yeah...I don't think he likes his HS softball players to have any experience...

I believe John Wooden once said "if I had to make a choice between 5 guys with heart and 5 guys with talent....I would take the 5 guys with talent every time".....apparently that is not everyone philosphy about softball....

I'm just kidding around....

Assuming that the only TB players available to a HS team are freshmen, then you might be correct. A 14A team would beat many HS teams if the HS team didn't have any TB players. But in my area, most HS players are TB players.

The point is, older TB players are typically better than younger TB players. So why do parents think that their 14A DD should instantly be starting varsity when the varsity squad is made up of mostly 18A players? That's why I used the example of if the 2 teams played.

Sorry if I didn't make myself clear enough.

If John Wooden were coaching HS softball, he would say, "If I had to make a choice between 11 freshmen with TB experience and 11 Seniors with TB experience, I would take the Seniors."

At least I now know who on here had a 14 year old not make Varsity.

Country Boy said:

I have never met a parent that didn't believe their TB star was better than everyone else on the HS team. But they forget, while their prima donna is working out with their TB team, much of the rest of my HS team is working together in the weight room and during open gyms. So little Miss Perfection is supposed to be embraced with open arms? And penciled in as the starting P, C, SS and batting 1-4 all at the same time?

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Country Boy, I missed this post. Sorry for the tardiness of this response. While I understand your point, this situation is not as simple as it sounds. I coached both TB and was a Head Coach at the HS level. My dd played for a TB program that did strength and conditioning, speed training, skills practice for positions and hitting throughout the week. In fact, she worked out 6 days a week for TB. When she was doing that weight training, she was in a group of 3 with a former collegiate strength and conditioning coach. She was given goals she had to meet with regards to lifts, speed times, ... Her HS coach had weightlifting as well after school. They talked as much as they lifted. They never recorded the results and never had goals. When they hit after school, 30 would show up for activity in a cage with a divider and 3 stations outside the cage. It lasted an hour. In no way was the HS work equivalent. Fortunately for us, the HS coach understood that my dd was working at a very high level and did not hold it against her. Country Boy, from the tone of the quote, and I don't know you, it looks like you would not respect that work instead suggesting that these players are prima donnas. Her coach respected that she was working year around to be the best player that she was, was playing games year around and was getting extensive coaching.

Per the parent of a TB player, and I hope you can see it in my posts, we have never ever said that our dd is some stud player. We have never been that "crazy" parent who, when not talking about how great their kid is, is waiting for an opportunity to continue telling everyone how great their kid is. So, there are some of us out there that don't fit this stereotype.

I can remember when my dd made the varsity as a freshman that a parent went to the head coach and complained that they didn't have their dd go to all those open gyms to then watch a freshman pass up their child and make varsity. Thank goodness, the best played. (Oh, sorry, that sounded like I was being "that dad." ;-) )