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Only if you can't get out the way
POLL~To move or Get hit by pitches~
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exactly
I assume in the 7 pages of this thread someone else has jumped on this.
What's cheating? Allowing yourself to get hit is not cheating. The pitcher threw a ball at you, and your reward for that is a free base. It's literally codified in the rules. It's the exact opposite of cheating.
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Well sticking your elbow out to get hit is sort of cheating but there is also a rule about that so you shouldn't be able to get away with it..
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the only time i question the batter getting out of the way is when the pitcher rolls the ball at the batter’s feet.
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If you read the post. I was referring to Standing in the river, moving into pitches, etc.
None of that qualifies as cheating.
It's on the umpires to enforce the rules, which do not allow a HBP to occur in the situations you describe. An umpire missing a call is not cheating. It's not cheating if a runner is out at first but the umpire calls her safe and she stays on the base. It's not cheating if the umpire calls ball 4 on a pitch right down the middle and the runner takes her base. It's also not cheating if a player gets hit with a pitch and is allowed to take her base even though her elbow was hanging out in the strike zone. That's a blown call.
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Cheesy happens.
Btw this is not a comment about cheating,
it is a comment about cheesy moments.
Which can be a combination of what the batter does and the Umpire doesn't.
Going to add that it's probably difficult for some umpires to conclude that a batter knew they are purposely aligning their body / limbs with the incoming pitch outside of the box.
Or even looking like trying to move but moved into the pitch which was toward the plate, into river.
Umpire sees batter getting hit by a pitch and goes sympathy route rather than calling the rule set AKA out of the box, and allows them to take first.
Btw this is not a comment about cheating,
it is a comment about cheesy moments.
Which can be a combination of what the batter does and the Umpire doesn't.
Going to add that it's probably difficult for some umpires to conclude that a batter knew they are purposely aligning their body / limbs with the incoming pitch outside of the box.
Or even looking like trying to move but moved into the pitch which was toward the plate, into river.
Umpire sees batter getting hit by a pitch and goes sympathy route rather than calling the rule set AKA out of the box, and allows them to take first.
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We will have to agree to disagree.
In all of your blown call scenarios no rule was violated. That is not cheating.
Cheating is to violate rules dishonesty.
That is different than violating a rule and it is up to someone to catch me.
Is it cheating to copy answers on a test but the teacher does not catch them?
radness
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There is paying attention to how umpires are officiating 'this game' and utilizing how it is happening.
Example: umpire keeps calling pitches that are in the opposite batter's box a strike. So a pitching location may become that spot 'this game'
particularly because the Umpire is calling it, not because it is a strike to throw pitches inside a batter's box.
Think the same scenario happens with HBP encounters.
When teams see an Umpire will always award a batter first base therein lies the example of opportunity to utilize how the Umpire is officiating.
It can become strategy with a bruise.
Example: umpire keeps calling pitches that are in the opposite batter's box a strike. So a pitching location may become that spot 'this game'
particularly because the Umpire is calling it, not because it is a strike to throw pitches inside a batter's box.
Think the same scenario happens with HBP encounters.
When teams see an Umpire will always award a batter first base therein lies the example of opportunity to utilize how the Umpire is officiating.
It can become strategy with a bruise.
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