Coiling?

Epstein focuses on torque created from the lower body opening as the top half goes back. That is the core of the swing, torque.

Are we always focused on the opening? Or are we supposed to think opening and not closing?

That description sounds like two horizontal planes (hips and shoulders), and the intent to create torsion tension between those planes, around the spine - "X-Factor". I used to think of the swing that way. I don't any more.

Maddie does a good job with my view of the swing here - hand pivot and rear hip pivot, not hip-shoulder separation/torque...

Eric F said:

That description sounds like two horizontal planes (hips and shoulders), and the intent to create torsion tension between those planes, around the spine - "X-Factor". I used to think of the swing that way. I don't any more.

Maddie does a good job with my view of the swing here - hand pivot and rear hip pivot, not hip-shoulder separation/torque...

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When she steps it appears there is shoulder and hip separation. IMHO


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Instead of 'closing' like all MLB hitters (see above), 99% of kids 'open' their hips. This is a fatal flaw that will prevent them from advancing.

2 different patterns

efastball said:

Instead of 'closing' like all MLB hitters (see above), 99% of kids 'open' their hips. This is a fatal flaw that will prevent them from advancing.

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I'm sure you've been asked this before, What's your thoughts on JD opening before toe touch/heel plant?

Let me see if I can summarize my question.

There is coiling, that is obvious. Then there is opening up or always working forward. If you just coiled then you would would never open. If you are thinking of always moving forward, better said working forward you coil against always working forward.

Does that make any sense?

Shawn said:

Let me see if I can summarize my question.

There is coiling, that is obvious. Then there is opening up or always working forward. If you just coiled then you would would never open. If you are thinking of always moving forward, better said working forward you coil against always working forward.

Does that make any sense?

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Sounds like fbc

Shawn said:

Let me see if I can summarize my question.

There is coiling, that is obvious. Then there is opening up or always working forward. If you just coiled then you would would never open. If you are thinking of always moving forward, better said working forward you coil against always working forward.

Does that make any sense?

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My point is, some hitters open prematurely.. JD is a good example

Think of it as staying closed and anchored against the forward momentum. That’s the explosion. That’s the stability, the balance, the whip. In order for there to be an explosion the legs have gotta stay stable so reactive/reciprocal rotation can take place.

the pelvis opening is a stretch reflex. If you do the JStone PVC drill ‘Walking away from your hands’ correctly, you will feel the pelvis SR. If you keep the bottom half of the leg stable you will feel the middle pull. It’s not so much about the opening. It’s about the stable backside pulling the ‘opening’ torso backwards, propelling the top half forward. I would take the forward rotation out of the description. Imo it’s all reactive rotation, from the pelvis to the front leg to the torso and shoulders..

look at the back leg RESIST rotation. That’s the start and finish of the swing. That gives the body an opportunity to separate forward and backward.

it shows up in many different ways. Eversion, scissor, foot re-anchoring immediately , back foot going up in the air and behind, space being maintained between the feet. Many ways. The Bregman drill is great for feel.