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Feb 6, 2020
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I think I'd start her up close, with a fetcher, not a catcher. No focus at all on control. Maybe even tossing into a net. I'd find whatever effort/distance that she could throw from and maintain posture. I'd give her a cue of rolling her back foot up onto the toe in a relaxed fashion. I'd ask her where on her arm she felt brush and talk about how posture helps brush. If it helped, I might ask her to try dragging her toenails.

Move back from there with more effort/distance until things break down. At that point, she might try a few dry throws to see if she can get the motion down, then try a few with a ball. She could also try throwing with her eyes closed.

Progress into walk ins, then full motion. In full motion, she might try an effort to drive squarely towards the target, but allow the torso to open naturally as the limbs extend. Toenail dragging might help. She might also try to imagine having an eyeball on her laces and think about the eye seeing the ground or the target. It might start feeling/looking a little forced at first, but eventually she'll want that back leg to come along for the ride, but in more of a toe down orientation which tends to help posture and get the hip in position for brush

Double check everything in slow mo. Work towards building her awareness so she can quickly identify and adjust on her own.

Here's an IR progression you might progress through:


Thanks a lot for this. We were probably trying to move to fast.
 
Nov 25, 2012
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The answer is here. She doesn't do it and she should. Many won't agree with this as it has been a debate for quite some time. The hips/core play a big roll in things. It is just a matter of when?

 
Feb 6, 2020
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We have made some improvement I think but have regressed a little since the fall also. I've learned that doing the drills doesn't mean that it will always translate into the full motion and that I need to take more video since it is hard to tell while you are catching or at full speed what may be wrong. Frontside resistance is still a problem and I'm not sure if the I/R looks right. She is palm toward 3B at 9:00 which I know is not ideal but wasn't worrying to much about it but now wondering if she is rotating early?


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May 15, 2008
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Overall she looks pretty good to me and just needs some fine tuning. She could use a little more IR. I'll include a link to a video I recently found that you should show her to help her get a feel for it. Her FSR looks OK to me. One thing I look for is to see what the head does after her stride foot lands. If her head goes up as she comes into release she has FSR. If her head stays level or drops she is collapsing on her front leg. In the video from behind, pause it at foot plant and mark where her head is in relation to the tarp, then start it again and you will that as she goes into release her head goes up. In the video from the side she does appear to walk through a little but that could because she's going to retrieve the ball. Here's the IR video.

 
Feb 6, 2020
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Overall she looks pretty good to me and just needs some fine tuning. She could use a little more IR. I'll include a link to a video I recently found that you should show her to help her get a feel for it. Her FSR looks OK to me. One thing I look for is to see what the head does after her stride foot lands. If her head goes up as she comes into release she has FSR. If her head stays level or drops she is collapsing on her front leg. In the video from behind, pause it at foot plant and mark where her head is in relation to the tarp, then start it again and you will that as she goes into release her head goes up. In the video from the side she does appear to walk through a little but that could because she's going to retrieve the ball. Here's the IR video.


Thanks, I'll check out the video on IR. I wasn't sure about her FSR. She seems to throw off the ball of her front foot a little bit and I was thinking her foot should be down and pushing back some also but I really don't know. Thanks for the pointer on watching her head. I'm going to try to video her more often since I realized that it is hard to notice some of the smaller things while watching or catching. We'll keep on trying to do some fine tuning.
 
Apr 28, 2014
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Watch the internal rotation that occurs starting at the :24 mark in the video below. The elbow begins to rotate and causes the back half of the whip. Your DD is missing part of that important step. She's close and will get it. Look at the video ArmWhip posted!

I watched your DD again and she is getting it, just not as pronounced as she could be. Her whip is good but can be better and she will pick up more velocity.
 
Feb 6, 2020
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Watch the internal rotation that occurs starting at the :24 mark in the video below. The elbow begins to rotate and causes the back half of the whip. Your DD is missing part of that important step. She's close and will get it. Look at the video ArmWhip posted!

I watched your DD again and she is getting it, just not as pronounced as she could be. Her whip is good but can be better and she will pick up more velocity.

I think I get what you are pointing out. Ueno rotates her arm all the way over in one continuous motion through release. My DD stops about 1/2 way through the rotation and then kind of fakes it straight out in front well after the fact. The guy on the left of the video that ArmWhip posted whips so fast it is almost hard to see in slow mo. I think we have the idea and will focus on working on that.
 
Apr 28, 2014
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I think I get what you are pointing out. Ueno rotates her arm all the way over in one continuous motion through release. My DD stops about 1/2 way through the rotation and then kind of fakes it straight out in front well after the fact. The guy on the left of the video that ArmWhip posted whips so fast it is almost hard to see in slow mo. I think we have the idea and will focus on working on that.
Yes! My DD had to over-emphasize it almost exaggerate it due to her first 4 years of HE.
 
May 15, 2008
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I think I get what you are pointing out. Ueno rotates her arm all the way over in one continuous motion through release. My DD stops about 1/2 way through the rotation and then kind of fakes it straight out in front well after the fact. The guy on the left of the video that ArmWhip posted whips so fast it is almost hard to see in slow mo. I think we have the idea and will focus on working on that.
When you watch the guy in the video on the left notice how the pocket/pants move when his hand brushes them.
 

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