Input on hiring a scouting/recruiting organization like NSR???

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Feb 17, 2015
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One of the things that Cathi can provide is a spreadsheet that she updates with the schools and the positions they are still looking for. Now keep in mind she can only provide information for the schools that respond to her inquiries. The cool thing about this is that you might find a school that you may not have considered before because they are actively looking for your DD's position. I think she offers this for $30. As always, I recommend you set up a call for $30 and talk to her about your recruiting goals. Good luck.
 
Nov 18, 2013
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This input has been great. Can't thank you guys enough. I think I can get the process done on my own (with all of the help on this forum, that is) rather than spending tons of money on a recruiter, at least at this point. DD is on a travel team for a good-sized organization, and we're in the Atlanta area so I think I have enough to work with in that respect. I'm thinking of ordering Cathi Aradi's book (as recommended, when the 2018 edition is released) and also of looking into her (much less expensive) services, as well as continuing to gather info on this site.

One more question, if anyone can answer -- is there any way of knowing whether a school is no longer looking for a particular class/position (for example, if a school is all set on 2020 pitchers, etc.), so as to not potentially waste time going to their camps? My DD is a 2021 pitcher, so it's probably not an issue quite yet for most schools, but I was still wondering.

p.s. JAD - I used your DD's postcard as a model to make some thank you's for my DD to send out. I also plan on using your DD's skills video as a go-by for ours. Hope you don't mind!

Thanks all, and have a great evening!

Have your DD call and ask if the coach is looking for players of her position and her grad year. A coach might have a very different answer for a player showing initiative than they would from recruiting services or coaches trying to sell their player.
 
Jul 4, 2014
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One of the things that Cathi can provide is a spreadsheet that she updates with the schools and the positions they are still looking for. Now keep in mind she can only provide information for the schools that respond to her inquiries. The cool thing about this is that you might find a school that you may not have considered before because they are actively looking for your DD's position. I think she offers this for $30. As always, I recommend you set up a call for $30 and talk to her about your recruiting goals. Good luck.

Cathi's offering a special right now. If you opt to sign up for her Fast Track option, she will refund you the $30. Just a thought.
 

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Something I found interesting- I checked the roster fir one school that DD is looking at. I could clearly see graduating seniors leaving positions open other than Pitcher. When DD talked to the coach, she had a different list of openings in the roster. I know there could be players that were next in line for positions left open by graduating seniors, but this was significantly different.
 
Dec 2, 2013
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If your player is a Senior and has not been getting any interest and/or late to the recruiting process I would consider employing a service like NSR or someone like that. It also depends on the type of TB team she is on and what connections those coaches have. Depends on her skill set and what type of college would be a good fit. From what I have seen NSR helps players on lower level TB teams and helps finds a fit with schools that aren't able to get highly talented players or kids that don't have great grades. So many variables to consider. Does your DD have a decent skills video or some type of Youtube page set up? If not, why not? The parents and players need to do some serious leg work and research on their own as well. Before you start throwing money into something, make sure you have exhausted all of the free resources you have available. The first thing I did was purchase Cathi Aradi's book 4 years ago. I still have my 2014 ed. Such a great resource, especially if you are just getting started.

MNDad said to call the coach. That's all fine and dandy, but with our experience coaches(depending on the level) don't pick up the phone unless they 1. Know who you are. 2. Are expecting your phone call. But yeah. Make the calls and expect to leave a message. It's a good skill to have. For many, the phone is a 20lb weight that is difficult to pick up. Anyone in sales will understand! A good TB coach or team liaison can help with this.
 
Feb 17, 2014
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The problem with NSR is that they over hype the recruit. Know of one profile that extolled the virtues of a catchers receiving abilities and claimed a 2.1 pop time. Meanwhile I have told her that if she does not get her act together and learn to catch as taught by NECC I doubt that she will see an inning behind the plate in college. Fortunately she can hit so maybe OF, or DH?
 
Nov 18, 2013
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If your player is a Senior and has not been getting any interest and/or late to the recruiting process I would consider employing a service like NSR or someone like that. It also depends on the type of TB team she is on and what connections those coaches have. Depends on her skill set and what type of college would be a good fit. From what I have seen NSR helps players on lower level TB teams and helps finds a fit with schools that aren't able to get highly talented players or kids that don't have great grades. So many variables to consider. Does your DD have a decent skills video or some type of Youtube page set up? If not, why not? The parents and players need to do some serious leg work and research on their own as well. Before you start throwing money into something, make sure you have exhausted all of the free resources you have available. The first thing I did was purchase Cathi Aradi's book 4 years ago. I still have my 2014 ed. Such a great resource, especially if you are just getting started.

MNDad said to call the coach. That's all fine and dandy, but with our experience coaches(depending on the level) don't pick up the phone unless they 1. Know who you are. 2. Are expecting your phone call. But yeah. Make the calls and expect to leave a message. It's a good skill to have. For many, the phone is a 20lb weight that is difficult to pick up. Anyone in sales will understand! A good TB coach or team liaison can help with this.

I get what you’re saying and it is hard, especially for kids in this age of texting. It’s a valuable skill though and will carry them farther than anything they can do with a softball. I usually called with questions about camps. DD wasn’t a household name and I never had any trouble getting through. It wasn’t always on the first try and not always the head coach, but eventually someone on the staff would answer. As I learned the rules I found emails usually get a fast response because unlike phone calls, they’re able to respond to camp questions. Having DD email asking about a camp became a good ice breaker to make her phone calls a little less stressful.

I was uncomfortable talking about recruiting and thought it should be between the travel coach and the college coach. Not having DD take ownership of the process was my biggest mistake. I know they meant well, but they had other priorities and agenda’s that didn’t always align with her goals. On the plus side it all worked out. I think it could have been a lot smoother and less stressful if we played a greater role. The worst was wondering what a coach thought and in hindsight I wish I would have just asked. Easier said than done and hindsight is 20/20 and all that.
 

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